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Game Plan for Steelers
by leejr Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:03 pm
Eagles vs. Steelers: Drawing Up a Game Plan for Pittsburgh
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The Steelers hope to be the best NFL team in Pennsylvania by beating the Eagles this Sunday.
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The [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] are 1-2 and headed off their early bye week to host the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] this Sunday. If they are to keep the postseason squarely within the realm of possibility, this is a game the Steelers need to win, and it's obviously not impossible for them to do so.
The Eagles are a different sort of team, however—their approaches on both offense and defense are unique and present a very specific set of challenges. Here's a three-step game plan for the Steelers to employ in their efforts to defeat Philadelphia this week.
Containment
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] The Steelers must keep Vick in the pocket, bring the pressure and prevent him from breaking loose.
Jeff Zelevansky/Getty Images The Eagles have two serious weapons on offense—quarterback [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and running back LeSean McCoy—who the Steelers must stop if they are to come out on top this week.
It's not been a banner year for Vick thus far. He's completed just 56.8 percent of his passes, is averaging 286 yards per game, has thrown four touchdowns to six interceptions and has been sacked 11 times.
Again, a combination of Vick's mobility and an offensive line ill-suited to protect such a quarterback has resulted in him taking a heavy dose of punishment. He's also carried the ball 27 times so far this season, for 130 total yards and a score, plus three fumbles, one lost.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Vick has taken 11 sacks already this season, and pass rush specialist James Harrison will finally be on the field for the Steelers. You see where I'm going with this.
Christian Petersen/Getty Images The Steelers' biggest task will therefore be to put pressure on Vick and force him to make throwing errors while at the same time not allowing him to escape and take off down the field. The return of safety [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] should greatly assist these efforts. Vick will have to consistently be aware of where he is on the field and have to make adjustments on the fly, not all of which will be correct.
Then, after the snap, Polamalu's versatility and speed make him the perfect defender to keep pace with Vick. He can contain him in the pocket, come at him with a blitz or pursue him should he try to run.
Limiting Vick's options isn't the only thing the Steelers defense needs to worry about—they must also contain McCoy. Though not much of a scoring threat (he has just one rushing touchdown on the year), McCoy nonetheless can eat up yardage play after play. He has 81 carries already this season for 384 yards and is averaging 4.7 yards per carry.
At the same time, the Steelers run defense is not as strong as it's been in years past—they're giving up [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] on average this year and, more importantly, 5.7 rushing first downs per game.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] The Steelers have to prevent McCoy from taking off on them.
Dale Zanine-US PRESSWIRE Of particular concern to the Steelers should be the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] McCoy has either evaded or broken so far this year, tied for fourth overall among running backs. The Steelers defense has 14 missed tackles to their name this season, and they'll need to rely heavily on executing that fundamental skill in order to hold McCoy's numbers down.
Yet again, this is another area in which Polamalu's return to action will greatly help the Steelers. Polamalu's biggest strengths are in run defense and in the pass rush, and he'll be all over the line of scrimmage, daring both Vick and McCoy to run (or to not run, as it were). Though Polamalu has issues with over-pursuit, considering the way he plays his position, he'll often serve as the first line of defense in stopping McCoy this week.
It won't just be Polamalu tasked with keeping McCoy at bay, however. Linebacker James Harrison, taking the field for the first time this year, will play a huge role in stopping both McCoy and Vick (when the latter decides to run) as well as fellow backers Larry Foote and Lawrence Timmons. The same can be said for defensive linemen Ziggy Hood and Brett Keisel.
When facing the Eagles offense, it's head-on-a-swivel time for defenders tasked with stopping them. Containment of McCoy and Vick will go a long way toward a Steelers victory this week.
Experiment with the Run Game
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] It's been hard for the Steelers to run the ball this year, but the return of Rashard Mendenhall should improve things somewhat.
Justin K. Aller/Getty Images There's a reason why the Eagles defense ranks [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] in average passing yards per game—the Wide Nine formation and how opponents respond to it. The system is designed to bring pressure by stretching out the defensive line along the width of the field, making it hard on offensive lines to block them in their pursuit of the quarterback.
The result is that teams ultimately often have to throw less and run more against them, especially those with poor pass-protecting offensive lines. Though the Steelers have improved in this area so far this season, they would still be smart in trying to exploit the one weakness the Wide Nine defense presents—large gaps through which running backs can cut with ease.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] The return of Mendenhall doesn't necessarily mean we've seen the last of Jonathan Dwyer—he could still get five or 10 carries this week.
Justin K. Aller/Getty Images The Steelers [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] in rushing yards per game, at 65, thanks in part to reliance on north-south runners Isaac Redman and Jonathan Dwyer as well as an offensive line that has struggled in run blocking. But the combination of the return of Rashard Mendenhall to active duty and the Eagles' relative susceptibility to the run means that it's as good a time as any to try to get the ground game back on track.
Mendenhall is not the greatest running back in the league, to be sure, but his career average of around four yards per carry is far better than what Dwyer and Redman have been doing in the previous three games, and he brings a dimension to the run game that the Steelers have lacked in his absence.
That's mainly speed and shiftiness. Mendenhall is no McCoy, but he's been the Steelers' best rushing bet for the past four season and racked up more than 1,200 rushing yards in 2010. He's a legitimate scoring threat, with power to match his speed and—most importantly—can fight through tackles in ways that Redman, especially, cannot.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] The Eagles' success against the run has more to do with opponents not having a strong run game to begin with than anything special Philly's defense is doing.
Alex Trautwig/Getty Images Pittsburgh's offensive line has struggled to create holes for their backs to run through, but the Eagles' Wide Nine alignment is ready-made with holes, if the linemen can just maintain them. Then, Mendenhall could easily have the opportunity to break off one of his signature long runs.
More success in the run game will also help out the Steelers when passing the ball. One reason why Steelers quarterback [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] hasn't been able to take many deep shots down the field is because their run game hasn't been working. With some successful runs, Roethlisberger can then use play-action to buy time and be able to hit receivers Antonio Brown, Mike Wallace and Emmanuel Sanders deep down the field.
This week, with Mendenhall set for a heavy workload—perhaps as many as 15 carries—the run game should have improved enough to allow for more overall creativity and risk-taking from the offense as a whole.
Kick Coverage
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] The Steelers cannot give up another 51-yard kick return as they did in Week 3; not with the Eagles offense coming to town.
Mark J. Rebilas-US PRESSWIRE The Steelers have more than a fighting chance to stop the Eagles from both passing and running the ball well, but they cannot set them up for easy yards or scores by giving them good field position on kicks and punts.
The one area that the Steelers have been especially weak on special teams is in kickoff coverage, and they cannot let the Eagles returners burn them for big gains this Sunday.
Pittsburgh is allowing an average of [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] on kickoff returns this year, the second-most yards allowed in the league, including a 51-yarder torn off by Mike Goodson of the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] in Week 3.
Eagles kick returner Brandon Boykin isn't the most successful returner in the league, averaging 21 yards per touch, but against the Steelers on Sunday he could look like an All-Pro candidate if they cannot get their coverage unit under control.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Brandon Boykin isn't an elite returner, and the Steelers need to not make him look that way on Sunday.
Howard Smith-US PRESSWIRE The Steelers weren't satisfied with their special teams play heading into the season, which is why they decided to relieve Al Everest of his duties as special teams coach and give the job to assistant Amos Jones.
Things haven't gotten much better with Jones running the show, but that's not necessarily Jones' fault—Pittsburgh has been shaky at all things special teams for seasons now, and it's hard to pinpoint just how they can fix it.
While things like their own kick and punt return game and their punting and kickoffs could be better, what they really need in this game is to keep the Eagles pinned back deep into their own territory. That's how pressure on Vick can be even more successful, and, even if it's not, simply forcing Philadelphia to march 80 or 90 yards per drive in order to put up a touchdown could easily be too much for them against the Steelers' now-healthy defense.
The goal on Sunday is to make nothing easier for Philadelphia, and that starts with keeping them from any sort of field position advantage via giving up a big kick or punt return. While wins and losses can often hinge on the giving up (or not) or making (or not) big plays, the seemingly little things make a great deal of difference.
This is a game of inches, of course, and the Steelers need to be careful not to give up yards before the Eagles even run a play.
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The Steelers hope to be the best NFL team in Pennsylvania by beating the Eagles this Sunday.
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The [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] are 1-2 and headed off their early bye week to host the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] this Sunday. If they are to keep the postseason squarely within the realm of possibility, this is a game the Steelers need to win, and it's obviously not impossible for them to do so.
The Eagles are a different sort of team, however—their approaches on both offense and defense are unique and present a very specific set of challenges. Here's a three-step game plan for the Steelers to employ in their efforts to defeat Philadelphia this week.
Containment
<p>
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] The Steelers must keep Vick in the pocket, bring the pressure and prevent him from breaking loose.
Jeff Zelevansky/Getty Images The Eagles have two serious weapons on offense—quarterback [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and running back LeSean McCoy—who the Steelers must stop if they are to come out on top this week.
It's not been a banner year for Vick thus far. He's completed just 56.8 percent of his passes, is averaging 286 yards per game, has thrown four touchdowns to six interceptions and has been sacked 11 times.
Again, a combination of Vick's mobility and an offensive line ill-suited to protect such a quarterback has resulted in him taking a heavy dose of punishment. He's also carried the ball 27 times so far this season, for 130 total yards and a score, plus three fumbles, one lost.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Vick has taken 11 sacks already this season, and pass rush specialist James Harrison will finally be on the field for the Steelers. You see where I'm going with this.
Christian Petersen/Getty Images The Steelers' biggest task will therefore be to put pressure on Vick and force him to make throwing errors while at the same time not allowing him to escape and take off down the field. The return of safety [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] should greatly assist these efforts. Vick will have to consistently be aware of where he is on the field and have to make adjustments on the fly, not all of which will be correct.
Then, after the snap, Polamalu's versatility and speed make him the perfect defender to keep pace with Vick. He can contain him in the pocket, come at him with a blitz or pursue him should he try to run.
Limiting Vick's options isn't the only thing the Steelers defense needs to worry about—they must also contain McCoy. Though not much of a scoring threat (he has just one rushing touchdown on the year), McCoy nonetheless can eat up yardage play after play. He has 81 carries already this season for 384 yards and is averaging 4.7 yards per carry.
At the same time, the Steelers run defense is not as strong as it's been in years past—they're giving up [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] on average this year and, more importantly, 5.7 rushing first downs per game.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] The Steelers have to prevent McCoy from taking off on them.
Dale Zanine-US PRESSWIRE Of particular concern to the Steelers should be the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] McCoy has either evaded or broken so far this year, tied for fourth overall among running backs. The Steelers defense has 14 missed tackles to their name this season, and they'll need to rely heavily on executing that fundamental skill in order to hold McCoy's numbers down.
Yet again, this is another area in which Polamalu's return to action will greatly help the Steelers. Polamalu's biggest strengths are in run defense and in the pass rush, and he'll be all over the line of scrimmage, daring both Vick and McCoy to run (or to not run, as it were). Though Polamalu has issues with over-pursuit, considering the way he plays his position, he'll often serve as the first line of defense in stopping McCoy this week.
It won't just be Polamalu tasked with keeping McCoy at bay, however. Linebacker James Harrison, taking the field for the first time this year, will play a huge role in stopping both McCoy and Vick (when the latter decides to run) as well as fellow backers Larry Foote and Lawrence Timmons. The same can be said for defensive linemen Ziggy Hood and Brett Keisel.
When facing the Eagles offense, it's head-on-a-swivel time for defenders tasked with stopping them. Containment of McCoy and Vick will go a long way toward a Steelers victory this week.
Experiment with the Run Game
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] It's been hard for the Steelers to run the ball this year, but the return of Rashard Mendenhall should improve things somewhat.
Justin K. Aller/Getty Images There's a reason why the Eagles defense ranks [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] in average passing yards per game—the Wide Nine formation and how opponents respond to it. The system is designed to bring pressure by stretching out the defensive line along the width of the field, making it hard on offensive lines to block them in their pursuit of the quarterback.
The result is that teams ultimately often have to throw less and run more against them, especially those with poor pass-protecting offensive lines. Though the Steelers have improved in this area so far this season, they would still be smart in trying to exploit the one weakness the Wide Nine defense presents—large gaps through which running backs can cut with ease.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] The return of Mendenhall doesn't necessarily mean we've seen the last of Jonathan Dwyer—he could still get five or 10 carries this week.
Justin K. Aller/Getty Images The Steelers [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] in rushing yards per game, at 65, thanks in part to reliance on north-south runners Isaac Redman and Jonathan Dwyer as well as an offensive line that has struggled in run blocking. But the combination of the return of Rashard Mendenhall to active duty and the Eagles' relative susceptibility to the run means that it's as good a time as any to try to get the ground game back on track.
Mendenhall is not the greatest running back in the league, to be sure, but his career average of around four yards per carry is far better than what Dwyer and Redman have been doing in the previous three games, and he brings a dimension to the run game that the Steelers have lacked in his absence.
That's mainly speed and shiftiness. Mendenhall is no McCoy, but he's been the Steelers' best rushing bet for the past four season and racked up more than 1,200 rushing yards in 2010. He's a legitimate scoring threat, with power to match his speed and—most importantly—can fight through tackles in ways that Redman, especially, cannot.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] The Eagles' success against the run has more to do with opponents not having a strong run game to begin with than anything special Philly's defense is doing.
Alex Trautwig/Getty Images Pittsburgh's offensive line has struggled to create holes for their backs to run through, but the Eagles' Wide Nine alignment is ready-made with holes, if the linemen can just maintain them. Then, Mendenhall could easily have the opportunity to break off one of his signature long runs.
More success in the run game will also help out the Steelers when passing the ball. One reason why Steelers quarterback [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] hasn't been able to take many deep shots down the field is because their run game hasn't been working. With some successful runs, Roethlisberger can then use play-action to buy time and be able to hit receivers Antonio Brown, Mike Wallace and Emmanuel Sanders deep down the field.
This week, with Mendenhall set for a heavy workload—perhaps as many as 15 carries—the run game should have improved enough to allow for more overall creativity and risk-taking from the offense as a whole.
Kick Coverage
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] The Steelers cannot give up another 51-yard kick return as they did in Week 3; not with the Eagles offense coming to town.
Mark J. Rebilas-US PRESSWIRE The Steelers have more than a fighting chance to stop the Eagles from both passing and running the ball well, but they cannot set them up for easy yards or scores by giving them good field position on kicks and punts.
The one area that the Steelers have been especially weak on special teams is in kickoff coverage, and they cannot let the Eagles returners burn them for big gains this Sunday.
Pittsburgh is allowing an average of [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] on kickoff returns this year, the second-most yards allowed in the league, including a 51-yarder torn off by Mike Goodson of the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] in Week 3.
Eagles kick returner Brandon Boykin isn't the most successful returner in the league, averaging 21 yards per touch, but against the Steelers on Sunday he could look like an All-Pro candidate if they cannot get their coverage unit under control.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Brandon Boykin isn't an elite returner, and the Steelers need to not make him look that way on Sunday.
Howard Smith-US PRESSWIRE The Steelers weren't satisfied with their special teams play heading into the season, which is why they decided to relieve Al Everest of his duties as special teams coach and give the job to assistant Amos Jones.
Things haven't gotten much better with Jones running the show, but that's not necessarily Jones' fault—Pittsburgh has been shaky at all things special teams for seasons now, and it's hard to pinpoint just how they can fix it.
While things like their own kick and punt return game and their punting and kickoffs could be better, what they really need in this game is to keep the Eagles pinned back deep into their own territory. That's how pressure on Vick can be even more successful, and, even if it's not, simply forcing Philadelphia to march 80 or 90 yards per drive in order to put up a touchdown could easily be too much for them against the Steelers' now-healthy defense.
The goal on Sunday is to make nothing easier for Philadelphia, and that starts with keeping them from any sort of field position advantage via giving up a big kick or punt return. While wins and losses can often hinge on the giving up (or not) or making (or not) big plays, the seemingly little things make a great deal of difference.
This is a game of inches, of course, and the Steelers need to be careful not to give up yards before the Eagles even run a play.
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Re: Game Plan for Steelers
by RLON39 Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:23 am
The Steelers better worry how to handle the Eagles' pass rush first and foremost...
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Re: Game Plan for Steelers
by Guest Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:36 pm
TEH STEELERS ARE GOING TO GET SMOKED BY PHILLY...AND TEH SEASON IS OVER...TAHT FAST....AS I TOLD YOU IT WOULD BE....AS LONG AS TOMLIN IS THERE TEH TEAM GOES NO WHERE FROM THSI POINT FORWARD...IT WILL DEGRADE INTO A PILE OF DUNG UNDER HIM....HES NO COACH...
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Re: Game Plan for Steelers
by Guest Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:52 pm
DaRKMuMMySauRuS wrote:TEH STEELERS ARE GOING TO GET SMOKED BY PHILLY...AND TEH SEASON IS OVER...TAHT FAST....AS I TOLD YOU IT WOULD BE....AS LONG AS TOMLIN IS THERE TEH TEAM GOES NO WHERE FROM THSI POINT FORWARD...IT WILL DEGRADE INTO A PILE OF DUNG UNDER HIM....HES NO COACH...
Please go root for another team. Thank you.
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Re: Game Plan for Steelers
by Guest Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:56 pm
DiehardSteelersfan wrote:DaRKMuMMySauRuS wrote:TEH STEELERS ARE GOING TO GET SMOKED BY PHILLY...AND TEH SEASON IS OVER...TAHT FAST....AS I TOLD YOU IT WOULD BE....AS LONG AS TOMLIN IS THERE TEH TEAM GOES NO WHERE FROM THSI POINT FORWARD...IT WILL DEGRADE INTO A PILE OF DUNG UNDER HIM....HES NO COACH...
Please go root for another team. Thank you.
IM NOT A FAKE LIKE YOU...MUST BE WHY YOU LIKE TOMLIN SO MUCH...YOUR A FAKE JUST LIKE HIM....YOUR NOT THE SMAE PERSON I USE TO KNOW...WHY DON T YOU GO ROOT FOR ANOTHER TEAM SINCE YOUR SUCH A JUDAS TO THIS TEAM?...YOU DO LIVE IN TEH WONDERFUL STATE OHIO AND ITS GREAT SPORTS TEAMS NO?...WHY YOU ROOT FO RTEH STEELERS?...CAUSE YOUR A BANDWAGON FAN LIVING A LIE...WHICH EXPLAINS WHY AND WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO ME..A ONCE GREAT FRIEND...
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Re: Game Plan for Steelers
by RLON39 Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:27 am
^^^^^^^DaRKMuMMySauRuS wrote:TEH STEELERS ARE GOING TO GET SMOKED BY PHILLY...AND TEH SEASON IS OVER...TAHT FAST....AS I TOLD YOU IT WOULD BE....AS LONG AS TOMLIN IS THERE TEH TEAM GOES NO WHERE FROM THSI POINT FORWARD...IT WILL DEGRADE INTO A PILE OF DUNG UNDER HIM....HES NO COACH...
I think the Steelers are going to rise to the occasion, defensively, and beat a very flawed QB in Michael Vick. What concerns me is the defensive line and scheme of the Eagles.
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Re: Game Plan for Steelers
by Guest Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:19 am
RLON39 wrote:^^^^^^^DaRKMuMMySauRuS wrote:TEH STEELERS ARE GOING TO GET SMOKED BY PHILLY...AND TEH SEASON IS OVER...TAHT FAST....AS I TOLD YOU IT WOULD BE....AS LONG AS TOMLIN IS THERE TEH TEAM GOES NO WHERE FROM THSI POINT FORWARD...IT WILL DEGRADE INTO A PILE OF DUNG UNDER HIM....HES NO COACH...
I think the Steelers are going to rise to the occasion, defensively, and beat a very flawed QB in Michael Vick. What concerns me is the defensive line and scheme of the Eagles.
STEELERS WILL BE DOWN BY AT LEAST 20 POINTS BY HALFTIME TEHY GONNA GET KILLED SO BAD....CAUSE TOMLIN PLAYS PUSSY BALL...STEELERS LOOK LIKE SHIT WHETHER TEHY ARE PLAYING TEH BROWNSTAINS OR TEH CRACKERS..I DONT BELIEVE THIS TEAM HAS ANY FITE IN IT AS YOU THINK...ITS GONNA FOLD LIEK A TENT..CAUSE ITS MIRRORING ITS HEAD CAOCH...AFTER ENOUGH TIME ALL TEAMS END UP AN EXTENSION OF THEIR HEAD COACH AND HIS DEMEANOR..AND SINCE TOMLIN IS A LIMP PUSSY WHO DONT KNOW FOOTBALL..TAHST EXACTLY HOW TEH TEAM PLAYS....FACE IT COHWER PLAYERS CANT COVER FOR IT ANYMORE....NOR CAN BEN CAUSE HES SURROUND BY SHIT WITH NO HELP...SHIT MIKE TOMLIN PUT THERE
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Re: Game Plan for Steelers
by Guest Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:33 am
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]STEELERS WILL BE DOWN BY AT LEAST 20 POINTS BY HALFTIME TEHY GONNA GET KILLED SO BAD....CAUSE TOMLIN PLAYS PUSSY BALL...STEELERS LOOK LIKE SHIT WHETHER TEHY ARE PLAYING TEH BROWNSTAINS OR TEH CRACKERS..I DONT BELIEVE THIS TEAM HAS ANY FITE IN IT AS YOU THINK...ITS GONNA FOLD LIEK A TENT..CAUSE ITS MIRRORING ITS HEAD CAOCH...AFTER ENOUGH TIME ALL TEAMS END UP AN EXTENSION OF THEIR HEAD COACH AND HIS DEMEANOR..AND SINCE TOMLIN IS A LIMP PUSSY WHO DONT KNOW FOOTBALL..TAHST EXACTLY HOW TEH TEAM PLAYS....FACE IT COHWER PLAYERS CANT COVER FOR IT ANYMORE....NOR CAN BEN CAUSE HES SURROUND BY SHIT WITH NO HELP...SHIT MIKE TOMLIN PUT THERE
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Re: Game Plan for Steelers
by foghorn Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:54 am
Every once in awhile... people's behavior shows to others why that person is where they are in life. I doubt that ANYONE here doesn't know exactly where you are. I wished you could talk about football. Yea, We all get what and why you think about Tomlin. Does the repeated message have any more information? NO! In fact... it becomes more annoying with each of the dozens of times it is said. I haven't seen a single thing you have posted here , that does NOT contain some form of bashing on Tomlin. If the guy was killed in a car crash... would the Steelers suddenly get better? Most here don't believe that. I bet you'd argue they would...... WITHOUT any facts.DaRKMuMMySauRuS wrote:RLON39 wrote:^^^^^^^DaRKMuMMySauRuS wrote:TEH STEELERS ARE GOING TO GET SMOKED BY PHILLY...AND TEH SEASON IS OVER...TAHT FAST....AS I TOLD YOU IT WOULD BE....AS LONG AS TOMLIN IS THERE TEH TEAM GOES NO WHERE FROM THSI POINT FORWARD...IT WILL DEGRADE INTO A PILE OF DUNG UNDER HIM....HES NO COACH...
I think the Steelers are going to rise to the occasion, defensively, and beat a very flawed QB in Michael Vick. What concerns me is the defensive line and scheme of the Eagles.
STEELERS WILL BE DOWN BY AT LEAST 20 POINTS BY HALFTIME TEHY GONNA GET KILLED SO BAD....CAUSE TOMLIN PLAYS PUSSY BALL...STEELERS LOOK LIKE SHIT WHETHER TEHY ARE PLAYING TEH BROWNSTAINS OR TEH CRACKERS..I DONT BELIEVE THIS TEAM HAS ANY FITE IN IT AS YOU THINK...ITS GONNA FOLD LIEK A TENT..CAUSE ITS MIRRORING ITS HEAD CAOCH...AFTER ENOUGH TIME ALL TEAMS END UP AN EXTENSION OF THEIR HEAD COACH AND HIS DEMEANOR..AND SINCE TOMLIN IS A LIMP PUSSY WHO DONT KNOW FOOTBALL..TAHST EXACTLY HOW TEH TEAM PLAYS....FACE IT COHWER PLAYERS CANT COVER FOR IT ANYMORE....NOR CAN BEN CAUSE HES SURROUND BY SHIT WITH NO HELP...SHIT MIKE TOMLIN PUT THERE
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Re: Game Plan for Steelers
by foghorn Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:54 pm
I'll take a stab at something here.... Task.. what do you still like about the Steeler's ? Why or what causes you to be a fan. I'm interested in hearing something positive from you. Most Steeler fan are very passionate in their support for the team. Let us know what still get's your passion going.TASK wrote:DaRKMuMMySauRuS wrote:TEH STEELERS ARE GOING TO GET SMOKED BY PHILLY...AND TEH SEASON IS OVER...TAHT FAST....AS I TOLD YOU IT WOULD BE....AS LONG AS TOMLIN IS THERE TEH TEAM GOES NO WHERE FROM THSI POINT FORWARD...IT WILL DEGRADE INTO A PILE OF DUNG UNDER HIM....HES NO COACH...
AGREED ... ALTHOUGH I ALWAYS GIVE THE STEELERS A "PUNCHERS CHANCE" TO WIN ANY BATTLE .. IT'S BECOME PAINFULLY CLEAR THAT TOMLINS INFLUENCE IS ERODING THIS TEAM AND TURNING IT INTO A JOKE .. PEOPLE HARDLY EVEN TAKE THE STEELERS SERIOUSLY ANYMORE , THEY ALL KNOW THAT THE TOMLIN LED STEELERS WILL ALWAYS FLOUNDER ABOUT AND PLAY "DOWN TO THE LOWEST COMPETITORS LEVEL" NO MATTER HOW IMPORTANT THE GAME ... THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE TOMLIN GOT HERE AND ITS GETTING WORSE EACH YEAR ... ITS NOW GOTTEN TO THE POINT THAT IF WE WIN ITS BECAUSE WE GOT LUCKY IN SOME ASPECT OF THE GAME , NOT BECAUSE TOMLIN OUT-COACHED AN OPPONENT.
THE EAGLES REID IS A MAJOR DUNCE MORON ... SO WE DO HAVE A CHANCE BASED ON REID BEING A COMPLETE IDIOT.
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Re: Game Plan for Steelers
by wyckedheart8 Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:04 pm
Mummy, I seriously hate saying this but PittspukeDaRKMuMMySauRuS wrote:TEH STEELERS ARE GOING TO GET SMOKED BY PHILLY...AND TEH SEASON IS OVER...TAHT FAST....AS I TOLD YOU IT WOULD BE....AS LONG AS TOMLIN IS THERE TEH TEAM GOES NO WHERE FROM THSI POINT FORWARD...IT WILL DEGRADE INTO A PILE OF DUNG UNDER HIM....HES NO COACH...
can still beat anyteam in the NFL and noty just on any given Sunday, I cant think of anyteam that if they played 10x that they wouldnt have a damn good shot at winning 5 of those 10 games and I am talking about teams like the Packers,the Pats,San Fran ,Baltimore and so on, anyteam that plays them has their coaches doing time and a hald trying to figure out how to beat them and looking for a weakness to exploit over and over and they dont have one that a team can take advantage of all day long. BTW, I still hate them!!!
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Re: Game Plan for Steelers
by wyckedheart8 Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:12 pm
As for the O-Line, yeah they have a fwew problems there but a good O-Coordinator can get around that will creative screens,quick pitches and short quick passing routes, those always stop teams with defensive front like Philly to stop pinning their ears back on every play allowing a QB to take trhose 5-7 step drops and hitting a guy like wallace.
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Re: Game Plan for Steelers
by Guest Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:56 pm
foghorn wrote:Every once in awhile... people's behavior shows to others why that person is where they are in life. I doubt that ANYONE here doesn't know exactly where you are. I wished you could talk about football. Yea, We all get what and why you think about Tomlin. Does the repeated message have any more information? NO! In fact... it becomes more annoying with each of the dozens of times it is said. I haven't seen a single thing you have posted here , that does NOT contain some form of bashing on Tomlin. If the guy was killed in a car crash... would the Steelers suddenly get better? Most here don't believe that. I bet you'd argue they would...... WITHOUT any facts.DaRKMuMMySauRuS wrote:RLON39 wrote:^^^^^^^DaRKMuMMySauRuS wrote:TEH STEELERS ARE GOING TO GET SMOKED BY PHILLY...AND TEH SEASON IS OVER...TAHT FAST....AS I TOLD YOU IT WOULD BE....AS LONG AS TOMLIN IS THERE TEH TEAM GOES NO WHERE FROM THSI POINT FORWARD...IT WILL DEGRADE INTO A PILE OF DUNG UNDER HIM....HES NO COACH...
I think the Steelers are going to rise to the occasion, defensively, and beat a very flawed QB in Michael Vick. What concerns me is the defensive line and scheme of the Eagles.
STEELERS WILL BE DOWN BY AT LEAST 20 POINTS BY HALFTIME TEHY GONNA GET KILLED SO BAD....CAUSE TOMLIN PLAYS PUSSY BALL...STEELERS LOOK LIKE SHIT WHETHER TEHY ARE PLAYING TEH BROWNSTAINS OR TEH CRACKERS..I DONT BELIEVE THIS TEAM HAS ANY FITE IN IT AS YOU THINK...ITS GONNA FOLD LIEK A TENT..CAUSE ITS MIRRORING ITS HEAD CAOCH...AFTER ENOUGH TIME ALL TEAMS END UP AN EXTENSION OF THEIR HEAD COACH AND HIS DEMEANOR..AND SINCE TOMLIN IS A LIMP PUSSY WHO DONT KNOW FOOTBALL..TAHST EXACTLY HOW TEH TEAM PLAYS....FACE IT COHWER PLAYERS CANT COVER FOR IT ANYMORE....NOR CAN BEN CAUSE HES SURROUND BY SHIT WITH NO HELP...SHIT MIKE TOMLIN PUT THERE
This is why I push back at Mummy. If he'd post his opinion and move on then I wouldn't feel the need to stand up and defend Tomlin. Of course being called a liar simply for posting my opinion plays a role in pushing back as well.
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Re: Game Plan for Steelers
by Guest Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:40 am
Yea, the Steelers are definitley gasping for air right now, but it's not like I can see any other AFC team THAT much better either. So, yeah, I think they've got a good chance still. There is still plenty of football left to play, and injuries that are sure to come for all teams. Anything can still happen. With Harrison back tonight, I see the Steelers coming back to their old form and beating the Eagles pretty good.
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Re: Game Plan for Steelers
by foghorn Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:25 am
Sure... I do! But the dialog you and I just shared is much more interesting to read that a plain old Tomlin sucks one... isn't it? When you want to, you can post some VERY good points... I'm just trying to get you to do more of that. You should know by now, I am not the hard ass I play to be.TASK wrote:foghorn wrote:I'll take a stab at something here.... Task.. what do you still like about the Steeler's ? Why or what causes you to be a fan. I'm interested in hearing something positive from you. Most Steeler fan are very passionate in their support for the team. Let us know what still get's your passion going.TASK wrote:DaRKMuMMySauRuS wrote:TEH STEELERS ARE GOING TO GET SMOKED BY PHILLY...AND TEH SEASON IS OVER...TAHT FAST....AS I TOLD YOU IT WOULD BE....AS LONG AS TOMLIN IS THERE TEH TEAM GOES NO WHERE FROM THSI POINT FORWARD...IT WILL DEGRADE INTO A PILE OF DUNG UNDER HIM....HES NO COACH...
AGREED ... ALTHOUGH I ALWAYS GIVE THE STEELERS A "PUNCHERS CHANCE" TO WIN ANY BATTLE .. IT'S BECOME PAINFULLY CLEAR THAT TOMLINS INFLUENCE IS ERODING THIS TEAM AND TURNING IT INTO A JOKE .. PEOPLE HARDLY EVEN TAKE THE STEELERS SERIOUSLY ANYMORE , THEY ALL KNOW THAT THE TOMLIN LED STEELERS WILL ALWAYS FLOUNDER ABOUT AND PLAY "DOWN TO THE LOWEST COMPETITORS LEVEL" NO MATTER HOW IMPORTANT THE GAME ... THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE TOMLIN GOT HERE AND ITS GETTING WORSE EACH YEAR ... ITS NOW GOTTEN TO THE POINT THAT IF WE WIN ITS BECAUSE WE GOT LUCKY IN SOME ASPECT OF THE GAME , NOT BECAUSE TOMLIN OUT-COACHED AN OPPONENT.
THE EAGLES REID IS A MAJOR DUNCE MORON ... SO WE DO HAVE A CHANCE BASED ON REID BEING A COMPLETE IDIOT.
YOUR RESPONSE AND QUESTIONS TO ME PROVES THAT YOU HAVEN'T COMPREHENDED ANYTHING I'VE POSTED FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS ... IF YOU HAD BEEN READING AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND MY POINTS THEN YOU WOULD ALREADY KNOW THAT I AM THE BIGGEST STEELER FAN AROUND ... YOU'RE CONFUSING TWO ISSUES .. 1)A FAN BEING UPSET WITH THE HEADCOACH AND HIS DOCUMENTED POOR RECORD OF HAVING THE TEAM PREPARED, AND 2) A FAN LOVING THE STEELERS, THE PLAYERS, THE TEAM LEGACY, HISTORY AND TRADITION .. A FAN CAN LOVE THE TEAM, BUT HATE THE COACH.. I THINK THIS IS WHAT HAS YOU CONFUSED ..
I HAVE ALSO POSTED THAT I AM ROOTING FOR TOMLIN TO GET HIS SHIT TOGETHER ... YOU MUST HAVE MISSED THOSE POSTS TOO.
I HAVE CONSISTENTLY POSTED OVER THE YEARS HOW I BELIEVED IN THE TEAM ... LOVED THE PLAYERS ... REGARDLESS OF THE POOR COACHING.
I HAVE ROOTED FOR THE STEELERS SINCE BEFORE THEY WON THEIR FIRST SUPERBOWL ... I HAVE BEEN WITH THEM THRU THE 70'S, 80'S, 90'S,2010'S, AND NOW INTO THE NEXT DECADE ... I HAVE ROOTED FOR THEM DURING THE WORST OF TIMES AND THE BEST OF TIMES... BUT WHEN I SEE A COACH LIKE TOMLIN CONTINUE TO MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES YEAR AFTER YEAR , AND COST THE SUPERBOWL-READY TEAM HE WAS HANDED GAMES AND PLAYOFF WINS AND SUPERBOWL APPEARANCES AND TITLES ... YES, IT DOES UPSET ME ... NOT WITH THE STEELERS, WITH THE COACH !!!
I HAVE ALWAYS LOVED THE STEELERS AND THEIR PLAYERS , YOU MIGHT NOT REMEMBER HOW I WOULD EVEN FIGURE OUT THE MATHMATICAL EQUATIONS OF WHO NEEDS TO LOSE AND WHO THE STEELERS MUST BEAT FOR OUR TEAM TO GET BACK INTO THE PLAYOFF PICTURE .. PEOPLE BUSTED MY CHOPS OVER THAT , BUT IT SHOWS WHAT KIND OF STRONG FAN I REALLY AM TO STICK BY THEIR SIDE AND HOLD OUT HOPE IN THE FACE OF LOSING GAMES ...
YOU QUESTIONING ME ABOUT MY LOVE OF THE STEELERS IS LIKE ... SOMEBODY QUESTIONING AN AMERICAN CITIZEN IF THEY TRULY LOVE AMERICA BECAUSE THEY SAID SOMETHING BAD ABOUT PRESIDENT OBAMA ... DO YOU SEE THE PROBLEM ?? THIS ISN'T ABOUT HATING AMERICA OR HATING THE STEELERS WHEN THE LEADERSHIP IS BROUGHT INTO QUESTION ... ITS OUR RIGHT TO QUESTION LEADERSHIP WHEN THINGS AREN'T GOING WELL.
CAN YOU UNDERSTAND ANY OF MY POINTS?
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Re: Game Plan for Steelers
by foghorn Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:55 pm
Wrong again! What's your percentage down to know?DaRKMuMMySauRuS wrote:TEH STEELERS ARE GOING TO GET SMOKED BY PHILLY...AND TEH SEASON IS OVER...TAHT FAST....AS I TOLD YOU IT WOULD BE....AS LONG AS TOMLIN IS THERE TEH TEAM GOES NO WHERE FROM THSI POINT FORWARD...IT WILL DEGRADE INTO A PILE OF DUNG UNDER HIM....HES NO COACH...
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Re: Game Plan for Steelers
by Guest Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:04 pm
foghorn wrote:Wrong again! What's your percentage down to know?DaRKMuMMySauRuS wrote:TEH STEELERS ARE GOING TO GET SMOKED BY PHILLY...AND TEH SEASON IS OVER...TAHT FAST....AS I TOLD YOU IT WOULD BE....AS LONG AS TOMLIN IS THERE TEH TEAM GOES NO WHERE FROM THSI POINT FORWARD...IT WILL DEGRADE INTO A PILE OF DUNG UNDER HIM....HES NO COACH...
He's got to be rolling in a negitive number by now.
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Re: Game Plan for Steelers
by foghorn Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:07 pm
My big complaint is, he's here to point out the negative, but never seems to find anything positive. The season is 16 games long.... there is a LOT of football to be played and a lot of room for improvement. I'm confident this team will get better. He's confident they won't.DiehardSteelersfan wrote:foghorn wrote:Wrong again! What's your percentage down to know?DaRKMuMMySauRuS wrote:TEH STEELERS ARE GOING TO GET SMOKED BY PHILLY...AND TEH SEASON IS OVER...TAHT FAST....AS I TOLD YOU IT WOULD BE....AS LONG AS TOMLIN IS THERE TEH TEAM GOES NO WHERE FROM THSI POINT FORWARD...IT WILL DEGRADE INTO A PILE OF DUNG UNDER HIM....HES NO COACH...
He's got to be rolling in a negitive number by now.
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