Order is restored

MB20 wrote:If there is a head coach who does more to actively hamper his team's success, I'd like to see it. That this offense struggles this much with this kind of talent is bullshit. Break tendency once in a while there, Mr. Play-Caller Extraordinaire. He's so focused on faking people out instead of just doing what his team does best. If I have to see one more fucking 3rd-and-1 bomb...


Yup.  Sheer idiocy.  I've liked to give Fatty the benefit of the doubt at times in the past because there are times that he proves to be just slow--and not a full-on idiot...but his lack of judgment when it comes to probabilities in his play-calling, particularly 3rd and short, proves to be his most unsettling inadequacy.  I've quite frankly given up on him.  When you're running up the gut and gashing the D at will all game long and call a play-action roll-out into the endzone on 3rd down when you only need one yard for a fresh 4--after his many year hsitory of similarly blowing the play call in that situation--that's not slow.  He just doesn't have it.  That Lions team should have had the doors blown off it today.  A good team would have made this already the third game of the season that McFatty coached his way out of a W.

Our secondary's tackling is atrocious. But Nick Perry might be a player after all.

Can Crosby do it when the game is on the line because MM called another retarded third-and-short play to leave him with a 51-yarder to win the game?

The Lions are still hot garbage underneath the deodorant that is Calvin Johnson.

The interior of the OL played pretty well today.

James Jones should get 3 more years.

These injuries are a crock.

Ryan Taylor... dude, really?

I'm gonna go celebrate by taking a nap

Nice overall assessment.  Pretty much right on the mark...

throttleplate wrote:2 failures on 3rd and 1,a long pass and a pass tipped,where is some backfield trickery or just fuckin run it as the offense was spread out grrrrr.Perry looked good with a strip and a sack while lining up over left tackle.MD jennings equals our bush in covering and cant tackle.

Why on 3rd and 10 or so does capers rush only 3? and still the pass gets completed,he did this at least 3 times today with them getting first down.Franklin equals cant be trusted without fumbling,our tight ends dont catch passes down the middle like lions were.

This offense looks so vanilla,was the lions defense that good or fatty just that stale in his playcalling?

duck wrote:If there is a head coach who does more to actively hamper his team's success, I'd like to see it. That this offense struggles this much with this kind of talent is bullshit. Break tendency once in a while there, Mr. Play-Caller Extraordinaire. He's so focused on faking people out instead of just doing what his team does best. If I have to see one more fucking 3rd-and-1 bomb...


Yup.  Sheer idiocy.  I've liked to give Fatty the benefit of the doubt at times in the past because there are times that he proves to be just slow--and not a full-on idiot...but his lack of judgment when it comes to probabilities in his play-calling, particularly 3rd and short, proves to be his most unsettling inadequacy.  I've quite frankly given up on him.  When you're running up the gut and gashing the D at will all game long and call a play-action roll-out into the endzone on 3rd down when you only need one yard for a fresh 4--after his many year hsitory of similarly blowing the play call in that situation--that's not slow.  He just doesn't have it.  That Lions team should have had the doors blown off it today.  A good team would have made this already the third game of the season that McFatty coached his way out of a W.






You guys lack perspective.  Despite the sluggish start, I was very happy with MM's game plan and play calling today.  Perhaps you can nitpick one call here and there but otherwise he called the game the way it needed to be run against a team with a strong interior pass rush:  lots of runs (and Lacy and the line did well) and short passes.  When the opportunity presented itself, Rodgers went deep with success.  Had Taylor not dropped a likely TD and Jones' second TD not been negated, the score differential would have been greater.


449 total yards, 180 on the ground and only one sack.  At one point, Lacy converted a 3rd-and-3 play on the ground.  When was the last time that ever happened in Green Bay?  Where's the beef??


And all this crap about our offensive line?  Bullshit.  This is a solid unit.  They've faced some pretty tough defenses four games in a row and yet we have have top 5 offensive production in a variety of departments, including running.


EVERY FAN BASE bitches about the play calling and thinks their offensive line is shit because you see a few ugly sacks or running plays get stuffed.  That's just the way fans are.


I'm quite content with MM's play calling and coaching right now and I also think our offensive line is at least average.

HD wrote:

 That Lions team should have had the doors blown off it today.

JnC4GB wrote:

HD wrote:

 That Lions team should have had the doors blown off it today.

It was 22-3 with two minutes left. 

A 19-point lead in the NFL with 2 minutes to go? That's a car with no doors.

An ugly, boring game, and the Packers clearly aren't where they need to be. But this was a "must" win game.

I'll fucking take it and sleep well tonight.

duck wrote:If there is a head coach who does more to actively hamper his team's success, I'd like to see it. That this offense struggles this much with this kind of talent is bullshit. Break tendency once in a while there, Mr. Play-Caller Extraordinaire. He's so focused on faking people out instead of just doing what his team does best. If I have to see one more fucking 3rd-and-1 bomb...


Yup.  Sheer idiocy.  I've liked to give Fatty the benefit of the doubt at times in the past because there are times that he proves to be just slow--and not a full-on idiot...but his lack of judgment when it comes to probabilities in his play-calling, particularly 3rd and short, proves to be his most unsettling inadequacy.  I've quite frankly given up on him.  When you're running up the gut and gashing the D at will all game long and call a play-action roll-out into the endzone on 3rd down when you only need one yard for a fresh 4--after his many year hsitory of similarly blowing the play call in that situation--that's not slow.  He just doesn't have it.  That Lions team should have had the doors blown off it today.  A good team would have made this already the third game of the season that McFatty coached his way out of a W.






You guys lack perspective.  Despite the sluggish start, I was very happy with MM's game plan and play calling today.  Perhaps you can nitpick one call here and there but otherwise he called the game the way it needed to be run against a team with a strong interior pass rush:  lots of runs (and Lacy and the line did well) and short passes.  When the opportunity presented itself, Rodgers went deep with success.  Had Taylor not dropped a likely TD and Jones' second TD not been negated, the score differential would have been greater.


449 total yards, 180 on the ground and only one sack.  At one point, Lacy converted a 3rd-and-3 play on the ground.  When was the last time that ever happened in Green Bay?  Where's the beef??


And all this crap about our offensive line?  Bullshit.  This is a solid unit.  They've faced some pretty tough defenses four games in a row and yet we have have top 5 offensive production in a variety of departments, including running.


EVERY FAN BASE bitches about the play calling and thinks their offensive line is shit because you see a few ugly sacks or running plays get stuffed.  That's just the way fans are.


I'm quite content with MM's play calling and coaching right now and I also think our offensive line is at least average.

JnC4GB wrote:

HD wrote:

 That Lions team should have had the doors blown off it today.

It was 22-3 with two minutes left. 

A 19-point lead in the NFL with 2 minutes to go? That's a car with no doors.

An ugly, boring game, and the Packers clearly aren't where they need to be. But this was a "must" win game.

I'll fucking take it and sleep well tonight.

milani wrote:We are not nitpicking MM's playcalling. He called the plunge at Cincy and it lost the game. But he does not pick up on how his team is playing and how the opposition is playing at a specific point in time.  If Philbin were still here calling plays these FG drives might get us 6 instead. Let ARod call the plays himself ala Peyton.

_HD_ wrote:

duck wrote:If there is a head coach who does more to actively hamper his team's success, I'd like to see it. That this offense struggles this much with this kind of talent is bullshit. Break tendency once in a while there, Mr. Play-Caller Extraordinaire. He's so focused on faking people out instead of just doing what his team does best. If I have to see one more fucking 3rd-and-1 bomb...


Yup.  Sheer idiocy.  I've liked to give Fatty the benefit of the doubt at times in the past because there are times that he proves to be just slow--and not a full-on idiot...but his lack of judgment when it comes to probabilities in his play-calling, particularly 3rd and short, proves to be his most unsettling inadequacy.  I've quite frankly given up on him.  When you're running up the gut and gashing the D at will all game long and call a play-action roll-out into the endzone on 3rd down when you only need one yard for a fresh 4--after his many year hsitory of similarly blowing the play call in that situation--that's not slow.  He just doesn't have it.  That Lions team should have had the doors blown off it today.  A good team would have made this already the third game of the season that McFatty coached his way out of a W.






You guys lack perspective.  Despite the sluggish start, I was very happy with MM's game plan and play calling today.  Perhaps you can nitpick one call here and there but otherwise he called the game the way it needed to be run against a team with a strong interior pass rush:  lots of runs (and Lacy and the line did well) and short passes.  When the opportunity presented itself, Rodgers went deep with success.  Had Taylor not dropped a likely TD and Jones' second TD not been negated, the score differential would have been greater.


449 total yards, 180 on the ground and only one sack.  At one point, Lacy converted a 3rd-and-3 play on the ground.  When was the last time that ever happened in Green Bay?  Where's the beef??


And all this crap about our offensive line?  Bullshit.  This is a solid unit.  They've faced some pretty tough defenses four games in a row and yet we have have top 5 offensive production in a variety of departments, including running.


EVERY FAN BASE bitches about the play calling and thinks their offensive line is shit because you see a few ugly sacks or running plays get stuffed.  That's just the way fans are.


I'm quite content with MM's play calling and coaching right now and I also think our offensive line is at least average.

You are correct in that it is a matter of perspective, Duck...  Your breakdown, however, is in that yours to too limited in scale...

What MB and I are referencing are the big picture systemic strategic play-calling breakdowns at critical junctures--most notably 3rd/short that Fatty proves ill-equipped to overcome.  I have no general problem with the way they game-planned for this specific game and my comments were not so directed...

Regardless, this game should have been an utter blowout.  It wasn't.  In fact--it was anyone's ballgame throughout much of it.  The W is great--but this team continues to reak of an underperformer...and this has been the big-picture trend for a troubling period of time now.  Something needs to change from a leadership approach or this team, like last season, will achieve nothing close to what they could/should...  Yes, it was a win--but hardly a satisfying one from my vantage point... 

JnC4GB wrote:Until further notice Ryan Taylor is on my shitlist. Almost wipped the remote at my flatscreen when he dropped that pass.

I miss Tom Crabtree.