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Post by diehardsteersfan Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:24 am

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Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice has been suspended for the first two games of the upcoming NFL season for allegedly beating his wife, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].
In February, Rice was arrested and charged with assault for allegedly attacking his then-fiancée, Janay Palmer, at an Atlantic City casino. Surveillance footage showed Rice [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. Police also claimed to have footage showing Rice knocking out Palmer, and though they did not release it to the press, one witness [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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In February, Rice was arrested and charged with assault for allegedly attacking his then-fiancée, Janay Palmer, at an Atlantic City casino. Surveillance footage showed Rice [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. Police also claimed to have footage showing Rice knocking out Palmer, and though they did not release it to the press, one witness [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Post by Guest Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:40 pm

She still married him. If it didn't make a difference to her then why should anyone else give a shit.

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Post by diehardsteersfan Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:56 pm

Dmounts wrote:She still married him. If it didn't make a difference to her then why should anyone else give a shit.

Because it's important for the man running the NFL to be consistent to every punishment or it gives the appearance that there is bias which could cause a major meltdown among fans.

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Post by Guest Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:11 pm

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Dmounts wrote:She still married him. If it didn't make a difference to her then why should anyone else give a shit.

Because it's important for the man running the NFL to be consistent to every punishment or it gives the appearance that there is bias which could cause a major meltdown among fans.
Bullshit major meltdown. LOL come on man. Do you really give a crap? You or I  know what went on in that elevator. The dude could have been taking a beating and pushed her off. Maybe she hit her head as she fails back. He may not even have hit her. You don't know. The commissioner met with both parties involved. Do you know what she told him? Do you know what he told him? You don't, so you don't know what judgement should have been passed on by the commissioner.

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Post by Randell60 Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:20 am

Dmounts wrote:She still married him. If it didn't make a difference to her then why should anyone else give a shit.

You ever get hit hard enough to see stars? She saw, $$$$$$$$. That's why she married him. If he worked at Wal Mart, she would have kicked him to the curb.
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Post by Guest Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:01 pm

Dmounts wrote:She still married him. If it didn't make a difference to her then why should anyone else give a shit.
The only reason they married was so that she wouldn't have to testify in his court case, the guy is a piece of shit woman beater!

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Post by Guest Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:46 pm

They have been together since high school. She knows all about him. If it was money she was after she could have taken him to court and sued  the hell out of him. That arguement doesn't hold water.

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Post by diehardsteersfan Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:06 pm

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Dmounts wrote:She still married him. If it didn't make a difference to her then why should anyone else give a shit.

Because it's important for the man running the NFL to be consistent to every punishment or it gives the appearance that there is bias which could cause a major meltdown among fans.
Bullshit major meltdown. LOL come on man. Do you really give a crap? You or I  know what went on in that elevator. The dude could have been taking a beating and pushed her off. Maybe she hit her head as she fails back. He may not even have hit her. You don't know. The commissioner met with both parties involved. Do you know what she told him? Do you know what he told him? You don't, so you don't know what judgement should have been passed on by the commissioner.

First off, why in the hell would you be defending a guy that knocked out his girlfriend?  Did I miss something?  Did he claim during his arraignment that his girlfriend passed out and hit the floor or some other excuse that excluded him?  Hell no!!!  He said, I didn't do it!  It is a domestic dispute...everyone knows it.  This article and the one posted above claims that she spit on him so he uppercut her and knocked her out.  [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  I tend to agree with Randell that it was about the money or she really loves the guy and thinks she can turn him around.  Let's just hope that this doesn't turn into something much worse in the future.  
 
Roger Goodell is by far the worst NFL Commissioner ever.  Never in my life have I seen a guy booed so unmercifully because people just do not like his out-of-control ego and his unfair practices.  

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Post by diehardsteersfan Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:07 pm

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Dmounts wrote:She still married him. If it didn't make a difference to her then why should anyone else give a shit.
The only reason they married was so that she wouldn't have to testify in his court case, the guy is a piece of shit woman beater!

I agree.

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Post by diehardsteersfan Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:08 pm

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Dmounts wrote:She still married him. If it didn't make a difference to her then why should anyone else give a shit.

You ever get hit hard enough to see stars? She saw, $$$$$$$$. That's why she married him. If he worked at Wal Mart, she would have kicked him to the curb.

Yep.  I piggyback on this post too.  Smile

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Post by Guest Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:33 pm

Which is worst rape or abuse? Is six games enough for both? or is Two games for abuse, six games for rape the right amount? I think you made your case Rodger Goodell does have some piss poor judgement.

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Dmounts wrote:Which is worst rape or abuse? Is six games enough for both? or is Two games for abuse, six games for rape the right amount? I think you made your case Rodger Goodell does have some piss poor judgement.
 If you give one player a 6 game suspension for conduct detrimental to the NFL..... shouldn't you be consistent and levy the same in a similar situation?  Rice was arrested, Roethlisberger was not. Yet Ben got a suspension 3 times what Rice has.  You ask which is worse? I submit that in the eyes of the NFL... the suspension isn't for the individual action- it is for behavior  detrimental to the NFL's Player standards. When you start to pick it apart, weigh each incident...... the standard becomes plyable and looses it's intent. The NFL should not judge which action is more severe than another. It should merely issue a ruling because the actions is detrimental.... Period. Rice should have gotten 6 games. ALL NFL players should get 6 games as a suspension 1st time. 2nd time, season.... 3rd time, Lifetime. Let me remind you. These are adults, who are EMPLOYED. The NFL is the ruling agency. The team ( who is the employer) has legally empowered the NFL to act in their interest. Basically the NFL is a hired policeman & judge for the individual teams.
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Dmounts wrote:They have been together since high school. She knows all about him. If it was money she was after she could have taken him to court and sued  the hell out of him. That arguement doesn't hold water.
 I wonder if you would have a different point of view if the woman was your daughter and the player was Johnny Manziel?
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Dmounts wrote:She still married him. If it didn't make a difference to her then why should anyone else give a shit.

Because it's important for the man running the NFL to be consistent to every punishment or it gives the appearance that there is bias which could cause a major meltdown among fans.
Bullshit major meltdown. LOL come on man. Do you really give a crap? You or I  know what went on in that elevator. The dude could have been taking a beating and pushed her off. Maybe she hit her head as she fails back. He may not even have hit her. You don't know. The commissioner met with both parties involved. Do you know what she told him? Do you know what he told him? You don't, so you don't know what judgement should have been passed on by the commissioner.
Yet, in numerous post on this board, you have judged Ben Roethlisberger. You have called him rapist and predator..... Interesting how YOUR agenda appears. You even inferred your position in a reply later in this particular thread.
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Post by diehardsteersfan Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:37 pm

Dmounts wrote:Which is worst rape or abuse? Is six games enough for both? or is Two games for abuse, six games for rape the right amount? I think you made your case Rodger Goodell does have some piss poor judgement.

Who are you trying to compare?  Do you think that Ben really raped those women?  No charges were filed.  One girl waited an entire year and the other when she first talked to the cops told them that Ben didn't do anything wrong.  So we're comparing a guy who was never charged for anything getting 6-weeks off and then dropped down to 4-weeks for good behavior.  I fail to see the comparison.  Ben got screwed first by his accusers and then by the Commish.  Ben got drunk, then accused falsely and then got 4-games suspension.

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Dmounts wrote:
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Dmounts wrote:She still married him. If it didn't make a difference to her then why should anyone else give a shit.

Because it's important for the man running the NFL to be consistent to every punishment or it gives the appearance that there is bias which could cause a major meltdown among fans.
Bullshit major meltdown. LOL come on man. Do you really give a crap? You or I  know what went on in that elevator. The dude could have been taking a beating and pushed her off. Maybe she hit her head as she fails back. He may not even have hit her. You don't know. The commissioner met with both parties involved. Do you know what she told him? Do you know what he told him? You don't, so you don't know what judgement should have been passed on by the commissioner.
Yet, in numerous post on this board, you have judged Ben Roethlisberger. You have called him rapist and predator..... Interesting how YOUR agenda appears. You even inferred your position in a reply later in this particular thread.

I really don't know what Ben actually did other than being stupid.  Maybe he did come on to the girls but then stopped when they told him too or maybe he actually did something.  Who really knows what actually happened.  Nevertheless, Ben was never charged for anything and yet he got 4-weeks.  He's the only one I know in the entire NFL that actually got suspended games without any actual charges?  Why is that?

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Dmounts wrote:Which is worst rape or abuse? Is six games enough for both? or is Two games for abuse, six games for rape the right amount? I think you made your case Rodger Goodell does have some piss poor judgement.
 If you give one player a 6 game suspension for conduct detrimental to the NFL..... shouldn't you be consistent and levy the same in a similar situation?  Rice was arrested, Roethlisberger was not. Yet Ben got a suspension 3 times what Rice has.  You ask which is worse? I submit that in the eyes of the NFL... the suspension isn't for the individual action- it is for behavior  detrimental to the NFL's Player standards. When you start to pick it apart, weigh each incident...... the standard becomes plyable and looses it's intent. The NFL should not judge which action is more severe than another. It should merely issue a ruling because the actions is detrimental.... Period. Rice should have gotten 6 games. ALL NFL players should get 6 games as a suspension 1st time. 2nd time, season.... 3rd time, Lifetime. Let me remind you. These are adults, who are EMPLOYED. The NFL is the ruling agency. The team ( who is the employer) has legally empowered the NFL to act in their interest. Basically the NFL is a hired policeman & judge for the individual teams.

If I would have read your post, I might not have posted mine.  You articulated this just about as well as anyone could right here.

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Dmounts wrote:
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Dmounts wrote:She still married him. If it didn't make a difference to her then why should anyone else give a shit.

Because it's important for the man running the NFL to be consistent to every punishment or it gives the appearance that there is bias which could cause a major meltdown among fans.
Bullshit major meltdown. LOL come on man. Do you really give a crap? You or I  know what went on in that elevator. The dude could have been taking a beating and pushed her off. Maybe she hit her head as she fails back. He may not even have hit her. You don't know. The commissioner met with both parties involved. Do you know what she told him? Do you know what he told him? You don't, so you don't know what judgement should have been passed on by the commissioner.
Yet, in numerous post on this board, you have judged Ben Roethlisberger. You have called him rapist and predator..... Interesting how YOUR agenda appears. You even inferred your position in a reply later in this particular thread.

I really don't know what Ben actually did other than being stupid.  Maybe he did come on to the girls but then stopped when they told him too or maybe he actually did something.  Who really knows what actually happened.  Nevertheless, Ben was never charged for anything and yet he got 4-weeks.  He's the only one I know in the entire NFL that actually got suspended games without any actual charges?  Why is that?
I would NOT think a steelers fan would see it anyother way. You say pay off, well lets refresh:
The civil lawsuit filed by a former Harrah's [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] casino host claiming [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] quarterback [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] raped her while he was visiting Lake Tahoe for a celebrity golf tournament in 2008 has been resolved.

But neither side will say whether the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] star paid[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] any money as a settlement.

McNulty filed the suit in Washoe District Court in 2009, claiming Roethlisberger lured her into his penthouse suite and forced her to have sex. The suit also named a list of Harrah's employees, claiming they covered up the alleged sexual assault.

In August 2011, the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] ruled against Roethlisberger and the other defendants, who had filed motions to move the case out of Reno. The Supreme Court affirmed a judge's ruling that the case should stay in Washoe District Court.

In December, all of the parties in the suit signed stipulations to dismiss the case.

McNulty's lawyer, Cal Dunlap, refused to discuss the terms of the stipulation.

Roethlisberger's lawyer, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], and his agent, Ryan Tollner, did not respond to calls and e-mails requesting comment.

McNulty claimed that Roethlisberger asked her to come to his suite to fix his broken television, the suit said. Once in the room, McNulty said he forced her on the bed and raped her, the suit said.

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Dmounts wrote:She still married him. If it didn't make a difference to her then why should anyone else give a shit.

Because it's important for the man running the NFL to be consistent to every punishment or it gives the appearance that there is bias which could cause a major meltdown among fans.
Bullshit major meltdown. LOL come on man. Do you really give a crap? You or I  know what went on in that elevator. The dude could have been taking a beating and pushed her off. Maybe she hit her head as she fails back. He may not even have hit her. You don't know. The commissioner met with both parties involved. Do you know what she told him? Do you know what he told him? You don't, so you don't know what judgement should have been passed on by the commissioner.
Yet, in numerous post on this board, you have judged Ben Roethlisberger. You have called him rapist and predator..... Interesting how YOUR agenda appears. You even inferred your position in a reply later in this particular thread.

I really don't know what Ben actually did other than being stupid.  Maybe he did come on to the girls but then stopped when they told him too or maybe he actually did something.  Who really knows what actually happened.  Nevertheless, Ben was never charged for anything and yet he got 4-weeks.  He's the only one I know in the entire NFL that actually got suspended games without any actual charges?  Why is that?
I would NOT think a steelers fan would see it anyother way. You say pay off, well lets refresh:
The civil lawsuit filed by a former Harrah's [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] casino host claiming [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] quarterback [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] raped her while he was visiting Lake Tahoe for a celebrity golf tournament in 2008 has been resolved.

But neither side will say whether the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] star paid[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] any money as a settlement.

McNulty filed the suit in Washoe District Court in 2009, claiming Roethlisberger lured her into his penthouse suite and forced her to have sex. The suit also named a list of Harrah's employees, claiming they covered up the alleged sexual assault.

In August 2011, the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] ruled against Roethlisberger and the other defendants, who had filed motions to move the case out of Reno. The Supreme Court affirmed a judge's ruling that the case should stay in Washoe District Court.

In December, all of the parties in the suit signed stipulations to dismiss the case.

McNulty's lawyer, Cal Dunlap, refused to discuss the terms of the stipulation.

Roethlisberger's lawyer, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], and his agent, Ryan Tollner, did not respond to calls and e-mails requesting comment.

McNulty claimed that Roethlisberger asked her to come to his suite to fix his broken television, the suit said. Once in the room, McNulty said he forced her on the bed and raped her, the suit said.
 Since you fail to comprehend.... NO CHARGES filed against Roethlisberger.....he got 6 games.... Rice...no charges because she refused to testify.... he got 2 games... Holy fuck... tell me you aren't dumb enough to see. By the way... civil charges don't mean shit.... anyone can sue anyone they want. Hell I could sue you for upsetting me with your dumbness. Everything you just posted has been shown to be horseshit. So why the lame refresh?  But, you being a Browns fan.... takes a while to sink in, LOL. What number rebuilding plan you guys on again? Read the highlighted part.... that's the part that says there was NO MERIT. They ALL agree to dismiss... ya know, the judge, BOTH lawyers, ect. But hey.... it was worth 6 games Right? You all better hope Josh Gordon doesn't get the Ben R deal..... but him being a poor disadvantaged black man... like Rice..... he should only get a 1/2 game suspension.
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What part of pay off don't see understand. I guess the NFL just doesn't get it either. McNulty's lawyer, Cal Dunlap, refused to discuss the terms of the stipulation.

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Post by diehardsteersfan Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:15 am

Dmounts wrote:What part of pay off don't see understand. I guess the NFL just doesn't get it either. McNulty's lawyer, Cal Dunlap, refused to discuss the terms of the stipulation.

Me thinks you are having way too much fun with this.  I never heard about a third time so I tend to believe that article very well might have been bull-hockey too.  

And who in their right mind would wait an entire year to file a rape charge on a person.  Sorry, I'm not buying it.  And while that is running in the press, here comes another woman who happens to be in a bar with Ben partying and maybe her friends puts an idea in her head that this is a way to get some of his money because Ben is showing her some attention and buying her drinks?  Sorry, there's way too many loops in this story as well.  I really think it is bunk.  Especially when this girl never reported rape until after she already talked to the cops in which she never reported rape to them at that time.  And the final clue to this story after the entire investigation was finished (because it was investigated by local cops and the word I heard go around was that if Ben was guilty, they were going to nail his balls to the wall no matter who he was) that Ben did not do anything illegal, but he was acting dumb.

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The judge asked Rice's future wife what she was going to do after the hearing was over, Ray Rice jumped up and screamed at the judge, "The dishes if she knows what's good for her."   LOL
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