McGinn gives "average" grade to OL this week

by duck Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:18 pm

This breaks his pattern. Prior to the Rodgers injury, he gave the OL positive grades every week. Since the Rodgers injury (and the others on the OL), the ratings have all been negative. This week his evaluation was 3 out of a possible 5: average. One of his biggest criticisms was the line's failure to pursue Witherspoon during the kick six.

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by duck Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:19 am

No discussion?

I think that safely validates my contention that the Packer offensive line is not so bad -- or "dogshit", I think, is the popular term.

And of course, just so this doesn't get incorrectly spun, my assertion was never that this is a great line... just better than average.

If we were to quantify things, as HD so precisely does in his evaluation of MM as a head coach as a 6.6-7.4, I would estimate that "dogshit" translates to roughly 26th-32nd in the league. Milani pegged the line as bottom five, so shall we go with a ranking of 28th? Fair enough?

In contrast, I would go with something more like 10th.

So, there you have it... our offensive line... approximately 28th in the league (dogshit) vs. approximately 10th in the league (better than average).

The next beer is on me!

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by RingoCStarrQB Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:20 am

10th in the league in rushing. But 37 sacks given up. Therefore............the offensive line is AVERAGE at best. Packers D is 6th in the league in sacks with 39 sacks. Giving up 37 sacks puts the Packers offensive line at about 32 minus 7 = 25th in the league.

25 + 6 divided by 2 = 15th-ish.............AVERAGE at best. Packers do not have a shit offensive line........Packers have an AVERAGE offensive line. AVERAGE does NOT win championships. Packers offensive line is giving up about 3 sacks per game ....... 1 or 2 too many. GO PACKERs.

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by milani Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:31 am

RingoCStarrQB wrote:10th in the league in rushing. But 37 sacks given up. Therefore............the offensive line is AVERAGE at best. Packers D is 6th in the league in sacks with 39 sacks. Giving up 37 sacks puts the Packers offensive line at about 32 minus 7 = 25th in the league.

25 + 6 divided by 2 = 15th-ish.............AVERAGE at best. Packers do not have a shit offensive line........Packers have an AVERAGE offensive line. AVERAGE does NOT win championships. Packers offensive line is giving up about 3 sacks per game ....... 1 or 2 too many. GO PACKERs.

Sadly correct, Ringo. Minus 2 no.1 picks and instability at center since Wells left has made you wonder how Rodgers could do what he did.
In contrast you saw last week how the Bears improved their fatal flaw, the O-line over previous seasons. They blew out the Cowboy line and can protect any back up they throw out there. This enables whoever to find their 3 big guns down the field. Rodgers has to make quick drops or step up from the rush to do his thing. If Lacy were behind a decent line just think of the numbers he could put up. After safety this is the next position that has to be upgraded next season.

by duck Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:54 am

RingoCStarrQB wrote:10th in the league in rushing. But 37 sacks given up. Therefore............the offensive line is AVERAGE at best. Packers D is 6th in the league in sacks with 39 sacks. Giving up 37 sacks puts the Packers offensive line at about 32 minus 7 = 25th in the league.

25 + 6 divided by 2 = 15th-ish.............AVERAGE at best. Packers do not have a shit offensive line BINGO!! That was what started everything!!........Packers have an AVERAGE offensive line. AVERAGE does NOT win championships. Packers offensive line is giving up about 3 sacks per game ....... 1 or 2 too many. GO PACKERs.

by duck Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:57 am

milani wrote:
RingoCStarrQB wrote:10th in the league in rushing. But 37 sacks given up. Therefore............the offensive line is AVERAGE at best. Packers D is 6th in the league in sacks with 39 sacks. Giving up 37 sacks puts the Packers offensive line at about 32 minus 7 = 25th in the league.

25 + 6 divided by 2 = 15th-ish.............AVERAGE at best. Packers do not have a shit offensive line........Packers have an AVERAGE offensive line. AVERAGE does NOT win championships. Packers offensive line is giving up about 3 sacks per game ....... 1 or 2 too many. GO PACKERs.

Sadly correct, Ringo. Minus 2 no.1 picks and instability at center since Wells left has made you wonder how Rodgers could do what he did.
In contrast you saw last week how the Bears improved their fatal flaw, the O-line over previous seasons. They blew out the Cowboy line and can protect any back up they throw out there. This enables whoever to find their 3 big guns down the field. Rodgers has to make quick drops or step up from the rush to do his thing. If Lacy were behind a decent line just think of the numbers he could put up. After safety this is the next position that has to be upgraded next season.

Milani, you say our line is "bottom five", but you've done nothing to support that assertion. Nothing whatsoever. It's just hot air on your part.

by RingoCStarrQB Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:53 pm

duck wrote:
milani wrote:
RingoCStarrQB wrote:10th in the league in rushing. But 37 sacks given up. Therefore............the offensive line is AVERAGE at best. Packers D is 6th in the league in sacks with 39 sacks. Giving up 37 sacks puts the Packers offensive line at about 32 minus 7 = 25th in the league.

25 + 6 divided by 2 = 15th-ish.............AVERAGE at best. Packers do not have a shit offensive line........Packers have an AVERAGE offensive line. AVERAGE does NOT win championships. Packers offensive line is giving up about 3 sacks per game ....... 1 or 2 too many. GO PACKERs.

Sadly correct, Ringo. Minus 2 no.1 picks and instability at center since Wells left has made you wonder how Rodgers could do what he did.
In contrast you saw last week how the Bears improved their fatal flaw, the O-line over previous seasons. They blew out the Cowboy line and can protect any back up they throw out there. This enables whoever to find their 3 big guns down the field. Rodgers has to make quick drops or step up from the rush to do his thing. If Lacy were behind a decent line just think of the numbers he could put up. After safety this is the next position that has to be upgraded next season.

Milani, you say our line is "bottom five", but you've done nothing to support that assertion. Nothing whatsoever. It's just hot air on your part.

The numbers say the line is average...........above average in run blocking and below average in pass blocking........thus........AVERAGE (not shitty like the Camel and not fantastic like Sheila and Catsy). GO PACKERs.........RUN TO DAYLIGHT and only pass when absolutely necessary.

by duck Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:57 pm

RingoCStarrQB wrote:
duck wrote:
milani wrote:
RingoCStarrQB wrote:10th in the league in rushing. But 37 sacks given up. Therefore............the offensive line is AVERAGE at best. Packers D is 6th in the league in sacks with 39 sacks. Giving up 37 sacks puts the Packers offensive line at about 32 minus 7 = 25th in the league.

25 + 6 divided by 2 = 15th-ish.............AVERAGE at best. Packers do not have a shit offensive line........Packers have an AVERAGE offensive line. AVERAGE does NOT win championships. Packers offensive line is giving up about 3 sacks per game ....... 1 or 2 too many. GO PACKERs.

Sadly correct, Ringo. Minus 2 no.1 picks and instability at center since Wells left has made you wonder how Rodgers could do what he did.
In contrast you saw last week how the Bears improved their fatal flaw, the O-line over previous seasons. They blew out the Cowboy line and can protect any back up they throw out there. This enables whoever to find their 3 big guns down the field. Rodgers has to make quick drops or step up from the rush to do his thing. If Lacy were behind a decent line just think of the numbers he could put up. After safety this is the next position that has to be upgraded next season.

Milani, you say our line is "bottom five", but you've done nothing to support that assertion. Nothing whatsoever. It's just hot air on your part.

The numbers say the line is average...........above average in run blocking and below average in pass blocking........thus........AVERAGE (not shitty like the Camel and not fantastic like Sheila and Catsy). GO PACKERs.........RUN TO DAYLIGHT and only pass when absolutely necessary.

Ringo gets it.

by RingoCStarrQB Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:02 pm

duck wrote:
RingoCStarrQB wrote:
duck wrote:
milani wrote:
RingoCStarrQB wrote:10th in the league in rushing. But 37 sacks given up. Therefore............the offensive line is AVERAGE at best. Packers D is 6th in the league in sacks with 39 sacks. Giving up 37 sacks puts the Packers offensive line at about 32 minus 7 = 25th in the league.

25 + 6 divided by 2 = 15th-ish.............AVERAGE at best. Packers do not have a shit offensive line........Packers have an AVERAGE offensive line. AVERAGE does NOT win championships. Packers offensive line is giving up about 3 sacks per game ....... 1 or 2 too many. GO PACKERs.

Sadly correct, Ringo. Minus 2 no.1 picks and instability at center since Wells left has made you wonder how Rodgers could do what he did.
In contrast you saw last week how the Bears improved their fatal flaw, the O-line over previous seasons. They blew out the Cowboy line and can protect any back up they throw out there. This enables whoever to find their 3 big guns down the field. Rodgers has to make quick drops or step up from the rush to do his thing. If Lacy were behind a decent line just think of the numbers he could put up. After safety this is the next position that has to be upgraded next season.

Milani, you say our line is "bottom five", but you've done nothing to support that assertion. Nothing whatsoever. It's just hot air on your part.

The numbers say the line is average...........above average in run blocking and below average in pass blocking........thus........AVERAGE (not shitty like the Camel and not fantastic like Sheila and Catsy). GO PACKERs.........RUN TO DAYLIGHT and only pass when absolutely necessary.

Ringo gets it.

In reality I ain't gettin' everything

by milani Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:12 pm

These stats account for the whole season including the first 7 games we played. Rodgers ability to throw under pressure and get out of the pocket masks out the problem. Play Flynn or Tolzien the whole season and watch those numbers go the other way like they have. Josh McCown can look like a HOFamer with the time he gets and the holes his line provides for the running game. Why do you think our HOF QB has a broken collar bone. Because they are a bottom feeder OL.

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