Greg Jennings Part II

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So, apparently there is an $8 million/year contract on the table for him right now that if he had half a fucking brain in his head he'd have jumped all over. Personally, I don't think he's worth that kind of money- he doesn't show up nearly enough. Way too many games like yesterday where he's practically a ghost.

But to me, it's another example of what I'm finding to be an alarming developing trend in TT- massively overpaying (or at least being willing to massively overpay) his own pending free agents. Burnett hasn't even made a dent in terms of beginning to earn that huge contract he got last offseason. Tramon Williams hasn't been worth his contract. Neither has Hawk (either time) or Brad Jones. Personally, I think even Clay is overpaid for as good as he is. He was about to fork over $10 mil to Jennings, and that would have been a disastrous decision. I think giving this kind of money to Raji would be another huge mistake. It's just another reason why I don't like the direction this team has taken over the past couple of years. Too much money being thrown around to guys on a unit that fucking stinks. How is the defense, or the team, ever going to get better with deals like this?

MB20 wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

So, apparently there is an $8 million/year contract on the table for him right now that if he had half a fucking brain in his head he'd have jumped all over. Personally, I don't think he's worth that kind of money- he doesn't show up nearly enough. Way too many games like yesterday where he's practically a ghost.

But to me, it's another example of what I'm finding to be an alarming developing trend in TT- massively overpaying (or at least being willing to massively overpay) his own pending free agents. Burnett hasn't even made a dent in terms of beginning to earn that huge contract he got last offseason. Tramon Williams hasn't been worth his contract. Neither has Hawk (either time) or Brad Jones. Personally, I think even Clay is overpaid for as good as he is. He was about to fork over $10 mil to Jennings, and that would have been a disastrous decision. I think giving this kind of money to Raji would be another huge mistake. It's just another reason why I don't like the direction this team has taken over the past couple of years. Too much money being thrown around to guys on a unit that fucking stinks. How is the defense, or the team, ever going to get better with deals like this?

MB20 wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

So, apparently there is an $8 million/year contract on the table for him right now that if he had half a fucking brain in his head he'd have jumped all over. Personally, I don't think he's worth that kind of money- he doesn't show up nearly enough. Way too many games like yesterday where he's practically a ghost.

But to me, it's another example of what I'm finding to be an alarming developing trend in TT- massively overpaying (or at least being willing to massively overpay) his own pending free agents. Burnett hasn't even made a dent in terms of beginning to earn that huge contract he got last offseason. Tramon Williams hasn't been worth his contract. Neither has Hawk (either time) or Brad Jones. Personally, I think even Clay is overpaid for as good as he is. He was about to fork over $10 mil to Jennings, and that would have been a disastrous decision. I think giving this kind of money to Raji would be another huge mistake. It's just another reason why I don't like the direction this team has taken over the past couple of years. Too much money being thrown around to guys on a unit that fucking stinks. How is the defense, or the team, ever going to get better with deals like this?

JnC4GB wrote:

MB20 wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

So, apparently there is an $8 million/year contract on the table for him right now that if he had half a fucking brain in his head he'd have jumped all over. Personally, I don't think he's worth that kind of money- he doesn't show up nearly enough. Way too many games like yesterday where he's practically a ghost.

But to me, it's another example of what I'm finding to be an alarming developing trend in TT- massively overpaying (or at least being willing to massively overpay) his own pending free agents. Burnett hasn't even made a dent in terms of beginning to earn that huge contract he got last offseason. Tramon Williams hasn't been worth his contract. Neither has Hawk (either time) or Brad Jones. Personally, I think even Clay is overpaid for as good as he is. He was about to fork over $10 mil to Jennings, and that would have been a disastrous decision. I think giving this kind of money to Raji would be another huge mistake. It's just another reason why I don't like the direction this team has taken over the past couple of years. Too much money being thrown around to guys on a unit that fucking stinks. How is the defense, or the team, ever going to get better with deals like this?

I just ripped on Raji in another topic thread, so I hear ya, man.
The problem is Pickett is near done...TT lets Raji go, who the hell do we have that fill these roles? 8 mill a year for 3 years sounds pretty do-able. It's certainly not outrageous money for a pretty decent 26-year old DT --which is why Raji is holding off. Unlike Greg Jennings, he WILL get a better offer. And as disappointing as Raji has been, he'd be an awesome addition to a really good DL...a last piece of the puzzle if you will. For instance, he may have had a poor game versus the Giants, but I bet they'd LOVE to put him in between Tuck and Pierre-Paul.

_HD_ wrote:

JnC4GB wrote:

MB20 wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

So, apparently there is an $8 million/year contract on the table for him right now that if he had half a fucking brain in his head he'd have jumped all over. Personally, I don't think he's worth that kind of money- he doesn't show up nearly enough. Way too many games like yesterday where he's practically a ghost.

But to me, it's another example of what I'm finding to be an alarming developing trend in TT- massively overpaying (or at least being willing to massively overpay) his own pending free agents. Burnett hasn't even made a dent in terms of beginning to earn that huge contract he got last offseason. Tramon Williams hasn't been worth his contract. Neither has Hawk (either time) or Brad Jones. Personally, I think even Clay is overpaid for as good as he is. He was about to fork over $10 mil to Jennings, and that would have been a disastrous decision. I think giving this kind of money to Raji would be another huge mistake. It's just another reason why I don't like the direction this team has taken over the past couple of years. Too much money being thrown around to guys on a unit that fucking stinks. How is the defense, or the team, ever going to get better with deals like this?

I just ripped on Raji in another topic thread, so I hear ya, man.
The problem is Pickett is near done...TT lets Raji go, who the hell do we have that fill these roles? 8 mill a year for 3 years sounds pretty do-able. It's certainly not outrageous money for a pretty decent 26-year old DT --which is why Raji is holding off. Unlike Greg Jennings, he WILL get a better offer. And as disappointing as Raji has been, he'd be an awesome addition to a really good DL...a last piece of the puzzle if you will. For instance, he may have had a poor game versus the Giants, but I bet they'd LOVE to put him in between Tuck and Pierre-Paul.

I don't think $8M for Raji is out of line.  That's less than they've been wasting on Tramon Williams since he got the big payday. The guy stays healthy and generally does his job of eating up blockers to help the LB's stay clean.  He's probably having his least notable season this year--but we've got to remember, his big year was 2010 when he played a different position--NT--and that's much more of a playmaker position.  He's a pure blocker-eater now and doesn't even play on 3rd down--in the nickle or dime--so doesn't really get the opportunity to get the sexy stats.  I expect they'll move him back to NT if they retain him after Pickett leaves and you'll again see him on the highlight reel.  It's very, very hard to find big men who can move their feet like that...

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_HD_ wrote:

JnC4GB wrote:

MB20 wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

So, apparently there is an $8 million/year contract on the table for him right now that if he had half a fucking brain in his head he'd have jumped all over. Personally, I don't think he's worth that kind of money- he doesn't show up nearly enough. Way too many games like yesterday where he's practically a ghost.

But to me, it's another example of what I'm finding to be an alarming developing trend in TT- massively overpaying (or at least being willing to massively overpay) his own pending free agents. Burnett hasn't even made a dent in terms of beginning to earn that huge contract he got last offseason. Tramon Williams hasn't been worth his contract. Neither has Hawk (either time) or Brad Jones. Personally, I think even Clay is overpaid for as good as he is. He was about to fork over $10 mil to Jennings, and that would have been a disastrous decision. I think giving this kind of money to Raji would be another huge mistake. It's just another reason why I don't like the direction this team has taken over the past couple of years. Too much money being thrown around to guys on a unit that fucking stinks. How is the defense, or the team, ever going to get better with deals like this?

I just ripped on Raji in another topic thread, so I hear ya, man.
The problem is Pickett is near done...TT lets Raji go, who the hell do we have that fill these roles? 8 mill a year for 3 years sounds pretty do-able. It's certainly not outrageous money for a pretty decent 26-year old DT --which is why Raji is holding off. Unlike Greg Jennings, he WILL get a better offer. And as disappointing as Raji has been, he'd be an awesome addition to a really good DL...a last piece of the puzzle if you will. For instance, he may have had a poor game versus the Giants, but I bet they'd LOVE to put him in between Tuck and Pierre-Paul.

I don't think $8M for Raji is out of line.  That's less than they've been wasting on Tramon Williams since he got the big payday. The guy stays healthy and generally does his job of eating up blockers to help the LB's stay clean.  He's probably having his least notable season this year--but we've got to remember, his big year was 2010 when he played a different position--NT--and that's much more of a playmaker position.  He's a pure blocker-eater now and doesn't even play on 3rd down--in the nickle or dime--so doesn't really get the opportunity to get the sexy stats.  I expect they'll move him back to NT if they retain him after Pickett leaves and you'll again see him on the highlight reel.  It's very, very hard to find big men who can move their feet like that...

He's got some pass catching ability too.  I say we put him in our secondary and get rid of both our safeties.  

Ron Wolf once said it's like the whore in the bedroom, gourmet chef in the kitchen and lady on the street--when you find a big man who can move his feet--you never let 'em go...     I expect Raji to be retained and he has shown every indication he wants to remain.  He got that contract offer months ago.  The fact that the Pack has strategically chosen to leak that info now suggests they're at an impasse and, of course, time is on Raji's side--so the Pack needs to change the dynamic of the negotiations...

_HD_ wrote:

JnC4GB wrote:

MB20 wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

So, apparently there is an $8 million/year contract on the table for him right now that if he had half a fucking brain in his head he'd have jumped all over. Personally, I don't think he's worth that kind of money- he doesn't show up nearly enough. Way too many games like yesterday where he's practically a ghost.

But to me, it's another example of what I'm finding to be an alarming developing trend in TT- massively overpaying (or at least being willing to massively overpay) his own pending free agents. Burnett hasn't even made a dent in terms of beginning to earn that huge contract he got last offseason. Tramon Williams hasn't been worth his contract. Neither has Hawk (either time) or Brad Jones. Personally, I think even Clay is overpaid for as good as he is. He was about to fork over $10 mil to Jennings, and that would have been a disastrous decision. I think giving this kind of money to Raji would be another huge mistake. It's just another reason why I don't like the direction this team has taken over the past couple of years. Too much money being thrown around to guys on a unit that fucking stinks. How is the defense, or the team, ever going to get better with deals like this?

I just ripped on Raji in another topic thread, so I hear ya, man.
The problem is Pickett is near done...TT lets Raji go, who the hell do we have that fill these roles? 8 mill a year for 3 years sounds pretty do-able. It's certainly not outrageous money for a pretty decent 26-year old DT --which is why Raji is holding off. Unlike Greg Jennings, he WILL get a better offer. And as disappointing as Raji has been, he'd be an awesome addition to a really good DL...a last piece of the puzzle if you will. For instance, he may have had a poor game versus the Giants, but I bet they'd LOVE to put him in between Tuck and Pierre-Paul.

I don't think $8M for Raji is out of line.  That's less than they've been wasting on Tramon Williams since he got the big payday. The guy stays healthy and generally does his job of eating up blockers to help the LB's stay clean.  He's probably having his least notable season this year--but we've got to remember, his big year was 2010 when he played a different position--NT--and that's much more of a playmaker position.  He's a pure blocker-eater now and doesn't even play on 3rd down--in the nickle or dime--so doesn't really get the opportunity to get the sexy stats.  I expect they'll move him back to NT if they retain him after Pickett leaves and you'll again see him on the highlight reel.  It's very, very hard to find big men who can move their feet like that...