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Post by Admin Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:03 am

Here's some published info on your god Bill Cowher- not the talent evauating genius you talk of.
As the 2004 NFL Draft approached there were three standout
quarterbacks available: Manning, Rivers, and Roethlisberger. The San
Diego Chargers held the number one overall pick and were set to draft
Eli Manning first overall and make him their franchise quarterback. The
Giants held the fourth pick in the draft and wanted Manning, but were
ready to draft Ben Roethlisberger with the fourth pick since Manning
would likely go number one overall. The Steelers sat at pick 11 with
hopes of drafting whoever had not yet been picked.


Steelers coach Bill Cowher was set on drafting Phillip Rivers he
believed that Rivers was the best of the three quarterbacks and he was
his pick if he had the choice. However, as the draft approached Manning
made it clear that he would not sign with the Chargers. If the picked
him with the first pick he would holdout until he was traded to another
team. The question then arose: who will trade for Manning and which
quarterback is the Chargers second favorite.


Chargers’ coach Marty Schottenheimer had coached Rivers during the
Senior Bowl and had named him as his second option over Roethlisberger.
When the draft came the Chargers selected Manning and later traded him
to the Giants for Rivers and two other picks. The Steelers were left
with only one option at quarterback; Miami of Ohio star Ben
Roethlisberger. However, Cowher was upset about missing out on Rivers
and was not convinced Roethlisberger was the man for the Steelers.
Cowher and Steelers GM Kevin Colbert discussed drafting offensive tackle
Shawn Andrews and sticking with Tommy Maddux at quarterback (Andrews is
out of the league after playing for the Eagles and Giants until 2010).


That is when owner Dan Rooney stepped in and said “take the
quarterback.” The Steelers listened and used the number 11 pick on Ben
Roethlisberger. Over the past eight seasons Roethlisberger has led the
Steelers to three Super Bowls and has won two. Eli Manning has been to
two Super Bowls and won both. Rivers has been close a few times, but has
yet to make it to the Super Bowl. He has been ousted from the playoffs
and stripped of a Super Bowl birth by Eli’s brother Peyton Manning and
by Roethlisberger himself.


The Steelers fortunes could have been much different had Eli agreed
to play with the Chargers, but Steeler Nation should be thankful he held
out. It would be wrong for me to say I wasn’t against Eli for doing
what he did because I was, but knowing the facts he may have changed the
Steelers future by simply not wanting to go to San Diego.

From:http://steelblitz.com/steelers-2004-draft/1475/2012/04/17
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Post by Guest Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:55 am

That's here or there. You could also say that if Rivers would of had the same coaching staff that Pig Ben was dealt he would of had the same or better results. Look at the coaching staff at SD. That would have to be the worst bunch of bunglers that has been in the NFL.

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Post by Admin Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:00 am

Dmounts wrote:That's here or there. You could also say that if Rivers would of had the same coaching staff that Pig Ben was dealt he would of had the same or better results. Look at the coaching staff at SD. That would have to be the worst bunch of bunglers that has been in the NFL.
True, bit the point is: Cowher was not the drafting genius mummy claims. He was a hell of a coach to be sure. I wonder IF he had stayed, would he fared any better or worse than Tomlin. It's all pure speculation... and opinion. There is really no way to accurately compare, Other than to argue opinion. Which has seen it's fair share here.
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Post by Guest Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:59 pm

Admin wrote:
Dmounts wrote:That's here or there. You could also say that if Rivers would of had the same coaching staff that Pig Ben was dealt he would of had the same or better results. Look at the coaching staff at SD. That would have to be the worst bunch of bunglers that has been in the NFL.
True, bit the point is: Cowher was not the drafting genius mummy claims. He was a hell of a coach to be sure. I wonder IF he had stayed, would he fared any better or worse than Tomlin. It's all pure speculation... and opinion. There is really no way to accurately compare, Other than to argue opinion. Which has seen it's fair share here.

Cowher wanted Rivers over Roethlisberger??? Rivers would be Roethlisberger's water-boy. Cowher was responsible for Kordell Stewart too. Cowher was awful at picking QB's.

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Post by Guest Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:01 pm

Admin wrote: Here's some published info on your god Bill Cowher- not the talent evauating genius you talk of.
As the 2004 NFL Draft approached there were three standout
quarterbacks available: Manning, Rivers, and Roethlisberger. The San
Diego Chargers held the number one overall pick and were set to draft
Eli Manning first overall and make him their franchise quarterback. The
Giants held the fourth pick in the draft and wanted Manning, but were
ready to draft Ben Roethlisberger with the fourth pick since Manning
would likely go number one overall. The Steelers sat at pick 11 with
hopes of drafting whoever had not yet been picked.


Steelers coach Bill Cowher was set on drafting Phillip Rivers he
believed that Rivers was the best of the three quarterbacks and he was
his pick if he had the choice. However, as the draft approached Manning
made it clear that he would not sign with the Chargers. If the picked
him with the first pick he would holdout until he was traded to another
team. The question then arose: who will trade for Manning and which
quarterback is the Chargers second favorite.


Chargers’ coach Marty Schottenheimer had coached Rivers during the
Senior Bowl and had named him as his second option over Roethlisberger.
When the draft came the Chargers selected Manning and later traded him
to the Giants for Rivers and two other picks. The Steelers were left
with only one option at quarterback; Miami of Ohio star Ben
Roethlisberger. However, Cowher was upset about missing out on Rivers
and was not convinced Roethlisberger was the man for the Steelers.
Cowher and Steelers GM Kevin Colbert discussed drafting offensive tackle
Shawn Andrews and sticking with Tommy Maddux at quarterback (Andrews is
out of the league after playing for the Eagles and Giants until 2010).


That is when owner Dan Rooney stepped in and said “take the
quarterback.” The Steelers listened and used the number 11 pick on Ben
Roethlisberger. Over the past eight seasons Roethlisberger has led the
Steelers to three Super Bowls and has won two. Eli Manning has been to
two Super Bowls and won both. Rivers has been close a few times, but has
yet to make it to the Super Bowl. He has been ousted from the playoffs
and stripped of a Super Bowl birth by Eli’s brother Peyton Manning and
by Roethlisberger himself.


The Steelers fortunes could have been much different had Eli agreed
to play with the Chargers, but Steeler Nation should be thankful he held
out. It would be wrong for me to say I wasn’t against Eli for doing
what he did because I was, but knowing the facts he may have changed the
Steelers future by simply not wanting to go to San Diego.

From:http://steelblitz.com/steelers-2004-draft/1475/2012/04/17



I say it's time for Rooney's to get control of our future drafts. I bet they'd do a better job anyway.

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