Patriots alerted league re issue with Kicking balls

George1963 wrote:


So under your scenario the NFL
Received an unconfirmed report leading up to the AFCCG that the Patriots were cheating.
Followed their procedures prior to and during the AFCCG and
Caught the Patriots cheating.


This absolves the Patriots.
Brilliant.

Either you don't read the available articles on this story, or you live in a fantasy world.  A little of both I think.

Question:  Do you understand the difference between a finding that some balls were slightly under the minimum psi on the one hand, and the explanation for the balls being slightly under minimum psi as being the result of deliberate action on the other? 

Since you continue to stubbornly hang on to the phrase "Caught the Patriots cheating", you obviously do not.  We know its a huge disappointment for you, but the Patriots were not "caught cheating".  The only place where they were "caught cheating" is in the imaginations of sore losers.

Let me educate what you obviously don't have either the ability or intellectual honesty to grasp.  

Ted Wells is looking to see if some intentional, deliberate action by the Patriots took place, not just if some balls were slightly under the minimum.   

And even though Ted Wells has not reported his conclusion yet, we do know from every "leak" that's been reported, it has been looking more and more clear that there was no deliberate action.  There is not one "fact" that has been reported that even suggests that there was some intentional, deliberate action on their part to alter the psi after the balls were marked approved.  None.  In the face of everything that's out there that contradicts you, how you can say the Patriots were "Caught cheating" is mind boggling.  It is the equivalent of us standing outside on a sunny day and looking up into the sky, and me saying, "Look, the sky is blue", and you saying, "No its not, the sky is green."  

You want "brilliant"?  Here's some "brilliance" for you:  Since the Patriots did not actively, affirmatively do anything wrong, they don't have to be, as you say, "absolved" of any wrongdoing.  I know when that conclusion comes out officially from Ted Wells, its going to make all your previous posts about Brady, about Belichick, about the Patriots, make you look mighty foolish.  But you brought it all on yourself.  So get ready for it. 






Kelley Naqis report hasn't been disputed by Adam Schefter or anyone else and the fanboy hosts and callers of Boston sports radio are mocking her. Why is that not surprising? 

Are you high?  Kelley Naqi's report (A three week effort on her part.  She even drove to New Hampshire and knocked on the door of Jim McNally's home) totally blew up in her face.  Once again, you choosing what you want to believe instead of the truth that's right in front of your nose.  I listened to Kelly Naqi being interviewed on the radio.  From her own lips, her "story" was that McNally "tried to introduce a non approved K-ball into the game."  She was not just reporting facts.  She was assigning motive to McNally.  She kept using the word "introduce", outright stating as a fact that he, due to ulterior motive, was trying to sneak the ball into the game.  She was outright accusing him of intentionally attempting to put an unapproved ball - that he knew was unapproved -  into the game for some bad faith reason.  She could not say what the specific reason was, but she was definitely clear that there was intent on his part to break a rule.  I heard her speak.  That's what she said. 

Withing 24 hours what did Adam Schefter say?  He said that the ball that McNally handed (not "tried to introduce") to the game official was in fact handed to him by an NFL employee.  Clearly, (at least clearly for those people who are objective) he was merely handing the ball off that was given to him.  He was not trying to "introduce" an unapproved ball into the game.  If that's all there is, there is complete egg on Kelley's face.  Everyone sees that, whether Boston sports radio, or Deluth sports radio.  She wrongly assigned bad motive and bad intent to McNally when there was none.  Total lack of journalistic integrity.  Her three weeks of work resulted in a farce that was stunningly debunked by a fellow ESPN reporter.  Before her story, nobody ever heard of her.  She saw this as her chance to make a name for herself.  She made a name for herself alright, just not the kind she was hoping for.  

But wait, it gets better.  What did we find out about this NFL employee who handed the unapproved ball to McNally, who then handed it to the official?  We find out the reason he handed the unapproved ball to McNally was that he was stealing the approved balls, and the stolen balls needed to be replaced.   What?  Yes.  He stole the approved ball so he could sell it for personal profit on the side, and replaced it with an unapproved ball that he handed to McNally.  Making matters worse, the approved balls that he had been stealing for himself were meant to be sold for charitable purposes.  In effect, he was stealing from some charity.  Now, what did the NFL do when they found out he had been running this little personal side business selling game balls?  They fired his ass. 

Unreal.  You can't make this shit up.  This is not about Boston sports radio.  Once again, in your warped, distorted view of things, you're off base by a mile.  No, miles.  This is about everyone, everywhere saying Kelley's report was garbage.  McNally had no such motive or intent as she said he did.  He did not try to deceptively "introduce" an unapproved ball into the game.  I have read many a post on many a blog site from many a fan who are not Patriots fans, scoffing at Naqi's "story" and suggesting Jim McNally get a lawyer and sue her and ESPN.  Not me.  NON Pats fans, saying it, and that enough is enough.  






Ad Hominem  attacks are often a sign of someone with a weak mind or argument. You've been pretty consistent with them for the last several weeks. Sorry, years.

Since you seem to be sensitive about "attacks", let me tell you something.  There is no type of "attack" that is more vile, more disgusting, and more offensive than the type of "attack" that without a basis wrongly accuses someone of something that they didn't do.  You've been more than consistent with that, you've been unwavering - despite the fact that your dishonest "they cheated" conclusion is crumbling all around you, and multitudes of non Pats fans, whose posts I have read believe deflategate is a baseless witch hunt.  The back pedaling by Bob Kravitz, Gregg Doyel and others who jumped the gun is not even enough for you.  But it is laughable.  You criticizing ad hominem attacks?  That's rich, coming from someone who has made continual ad hominem attacks on Tom Brady and Bill Belichick without the slightest bit of justification.

George1963 wrote:


How does the statement you highlighted assign motive? Except in your mind of course. How does a factual statement that nobody has disputed assign motive?

She said, "He attempted to introduce an illegal ball into the game."  If you can't see the difference between the clear, unequivocal meaning of her saying that McNally "attempted to introduce" vs. the actual truth that McNally was merely a functionary who merely  "handed off what was handed to him", there is nothing I can do to help you.  Her description unmistakeably implies a bad faith motive and a wrongful intent on his part.  ("He tried to wrongfully sneak an illegal ball into the game, all the while knowing exactly what he was doing and that it was wrong.")  The other is a neutral description of him serving as a mere functionary (just handing off something that the only reason it was in his hands in the first place was because it was handed to him by a league employee) with total absence of motive or intent.  God, I know that you know the difference.  Why force yourself into making an argument totally devoid of logic and common sense?  Its unbelievable that for whatever reason - known only to you - you feel the need to abandon all logic and common sense.  Its sick really.



  I accurately pointed out that everyone, everywhere is saying Naqi's report was garbage.  You choose to be different than everyone, everywhere.  Whatever.  Adam Schefter poured gasoline on her story and lit the match.  In a stunning display of ESPN on ESPN crime it went up in blaze of glory.  Too funny.   Jim McNally had no such motive or intent as she unmistakeably suggested he did.  Her report has been universally scoffed at, not just in Boston.  Funny we haven't heard from her since.  Probably in hiding out of shame.





Fuck you.

The problem clearly lies with you, not me. 

And you tell me to "relax"?  LOL.




Ted Wells is looking to see if some intentional, deliberate action by the Patriots took place, not just if some balls were slightly under the minimum. 

No he's not.

Um, excuse me, that's exactly what he, and the league, said he is determining.  Duh. 
What exactly is your problem?  Why do you choose to be such a stranger with the truth?



They don't need an "intentional, deliberate action" to punish the Patriots. Circumstantial evidence is enough.

As a general statement of principle, I agree that circumstantial evidence certainly is enough upon which to base a conclusion.....however, only when there is enough circumstantial evidence present. 

In this case, regarding the question of deliberate action, THERE IS NONE.  Nada.  Zilch.  Zippo. 



Nothing's going to happen.

We agree on that.  But we disagree on the reason therefore. 

The real reason why nothing is going to happen is because THEY DID NOTHING.

The fact that they DID NOTHING is the ONLY REASON why "nothing's going to happen".   


And don't fucking tell me to relax.   Would you relax if your team's legitimate, hard earned championship accomplishments were subject of unjust, vacuous, frivolous, and blatantly false charges?  I doubt it.  If the shoe was on the other foot, you would be signing a vastly different tune, no doubt about it.


Bottom line:  Your hopeless cries that the Patriots were "caught cheating" in the AFCCG was, is, and continues to be W-R-O-N-G. 

Get it?  W-R-O-N-G. 

As in FALSE. 
As in INACCURATE. 
As in FLAWED. 
As in INCORRECT.

Be certain of one sure thing.   The fact that your bias is not allowing yourself the intellectual honesty to accept the reality that the Patriots did NOTHING is of no matter to me.  That's your choice.  Live with it, or don't live with it.  Accept it.  Don't accept it.  I could not care less.




Blow it out your ass. Ask BB if it's OK with him first, then blow it out your ass.

I will.......but not until after next year's Pats-Colts game when the Pats are up by 4 or 5 TD's late in the 4th Q and have the ball inside the Colts 10 yard line with less than a minute to go in the game, and Tom Brady is throwing into the end zone for yet another meaningless score. 
Its going to be one of those sweet "run up the score" games.  Book it. 
And I'm going to love it.  It will serve that slimeball Grigson right.