When games really matter...

DiehardSteelersfan wrote:The Steelers own the Colts.

The sooner you come to that realization, the better you are going to be able to cope with reality Stampy.

George1963 wrote:

DiehardSteelersfan wrote:The Steelers own the Colts.

The sooner you come to that realization, the better you are going to be able to cope with reality Stampy.

Yawn!!

DiehardSteelersfan wrote:The Steelers own the Colts.

The sooner you come to that realization, the better you are going to be able to cope with reality Stampy.

Stampede wrote:

DiehardSteelersfan wrote:The Steelers own the Colts.

The sooner you come to that realization, the better you are going to be able to cope with reality Stampy.

Reminds me of a post Rags wrote over on the Jets board about how I, a Colts fan, had some nerve to talk smack to Steelers fans. I guess Rags never realized that the Colts were 2-1 against the Steelers in the Manning era with their lone loss coming on a Mike Vandershank miss of a chip shot. Then again Rags never was big on facts.

George1963 wrote:DiehardSteelersfan

I think it is "you" who never seems to grasp that fact that whenever the Colts play the Steelers in a meaningful game, where it is "do or die"- win and move on or lose and go home, you guys go home.




Like the Steelers and the Jags?

DiehardSteelersfan wrote:

George1963 wrote:DiehardSteelersfan

I think it is "you" who never seems to grasp that fact that whenever the Colts play the Steelers in a meaningful game, where it is "do or die"- win and move on or lose and go home, you guys go home.




Like the Steelers and the Jags?

I have no problem giving credit to a fan from another team when they deserve it. I just don't understand fans (Stamp) who simply win a couple of games against a team that has litterly owned them for decades spouting off because of those couple of wins. Still, using the one playoff game the Jags won against the Steelers in the final seconds only because the NFL refs did not see a clear holding call is weak at best.

George1963 wrote:

DiehardSteelersfan wrote:

George1963 wrote:DiehardSteelersfan

I think it is "you" who never seems to grasp that fact that whenever the Colts play the Steelers in a meaningful game, where it is "do or die"- win and move on or lose and go home, you guys go home.




Like the Steelers and the Jags?

I have no problem giving credit to a fan from another team when they deserve it. I just don't understand fans (Stamp) who simply win a couple of games against a team that has litterly owned them for decades spouting off because of those couple of wins. Still, using the one playoff game the Jags won against the Steelers in the final seconds only because the NFL refs did not see a clear holding call is weak at best.

Yea, well the NFL really screwed up when they brought the Jaguars and the Panther's into the league. They basically set it up to give those two teams a huge advantage to begin winning right away. That's why you'll never see a new franchise again be able to do what those two teams were able to accomplish in the first few years of their existence.


The Steelers went 75 years without ever losing to the same team twice in the same season until they ran into the buzzsaw that is the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Stampede wrote:How many "meaningful" games are you referring to Die? Off the top of my head I can only remember the Colts and Steelers meeting twice in the playoffs in the last 20+ years. '96 (when the refs handed you the game ) and '05. Real big sample size there.

George1963 wrote:Yea, well the NFL really screwed up when they brought the Jaguars and
the Panther's into the league. They basically set it up to give those
two teams a huge advantage to begin winning right away. That's why
you'll never see a new franchise again be able to do what those two
teams were able to accomplish in the first few years of their existence.


I'll assume you're being serious about this and not just making excuses for the Jags utter dominance of the Steelers in "win or go home" games.

The Bucs and Seahawks started out with similar "advantages" to the ones the Jags and Panthers did.
The Browns and Texans did after.
It took years for any of those teams to even work their way up to mediocre.
1995 was the exception, not the rule.

DiehardSteelersfan wrote:

George1963 wrote:

The Bucs and Seahawks started out with similar "advantages" to the ones the Jags and Panthers did.
The Browns and Texans did after.
It took years for any of those teams to even work their way up to mediocre.
1995 was the exception, not the rule.

Wrong, wrong, wrong! The Jags and Panthers go huge advantage over all the rest of the new teams. That's why the NFL did not let teams after the Jags and Panthers have those advantages. When those two teams came into the league, teams had to give up a couple of their players off of their roster. It never happened after that.

George1963 wrote:

DiehardSteelersfan wrote:

George1963 wrote:

The Bucs and Seahawks started out with similar "advantages" to the ones the Jags and Panthers did.
The Browns and Texans did after.
It took years for any of those teams to even work their way up to mediocre.
1995 was the exception, not the rule.

Wrong, wrong, wrong! The Jags and Panthers go huge advantage over all the rest of the new teams. That's why the NFL did not let teams after the Jags and Panthers have those advantages. When those two teams came into the league, teams had to give up a couple of their players off of their roster. It never happened after that.

Um, no.

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and the league gave the Browns the opportunity to select current
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The Browns took 37 guys off other teams. Some of them big names.


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Stampede wrote:How many "meaningful" games are you referring to Die? Off the top of my head I can only remember the Colts and Steelers meeting twice in the playoffs in the last 20+ years. '96 (when the refs handed you the game ) and '05. Real big sample size there.

DiehardSteelersfan wrote:

Stampede wrote:How many "meaningful" games are you referring to Die? Off the top of my head I can only remember the Colts and Steelers meeting twice in the playoffs in the last 20+ years. '96 (when the refs handed you the game ) and '05. Real big sample size there.

That's right, twice! And don't complain about my refs. It costs big-time money to get those calls.

Toddseahawks wrote:

DiehardSteelersfan wrote:

Stampede wrote:How many "meaningful" games are you referring to Die? Off the top of my head I can only remember the Colts and Steelers meeting twice in the playoffs in the last 20+ years. '96 (when the refs handed you the game ) and '05. Real big sample size there.

That's right, twice! And don't complain about my refs. It costs big-time money to get those calls.

I have never made excuse for the super bowl. But i will go on the record...the hawks where so f ed in the hole....it turned the tide of the game....it was a joke. I dare the steelers refs to pull that shit this year....we are back!!!! Seahawks are unstoppable this year....write that shit down. Real deal....

George1963 wrote:DiehardSteelersfan wrote:


Well I was wrong then. Man, I hate it when I am wrong!

I know. I was wrong once. It blows.