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Post by Rick on Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:13 pm

I thought you said the Colts were on a four year plan. It looks like they're pretty close in year three.

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Post by guppy on Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:09 pm

Rick wrote:I thought you said the Colts were on a four year plan. It looks like they're pretty close in year three.


Andrew Luck is special, no question. 

If you polled Indy fans right now, today, would they say not re-signing Peyton was the right move or the wrong move?  What % would say "right move"?  What % would say "wrong move"?


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Post by George1963 on Sat Oct 11, 2014 9:57 am

Rick wrote:I thought you said the Colts were on a four year plan. It looks like they're pretty close in year three.

This is year four. Year one was when they deviously got the number 1 pick by deliberately tanking the 2011 season. Remember?
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Post by George1963 on Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:03 am

guppy wrote:
Rick wrote:I thought you said the Colts were on a four year plan. It looks like they're pretty close in year three.


Andrew Luck is special, no question. 

If you polled Indy fans right now, today, would they say not re-signing Peyton was the right move or the wrong move?  What % would say "right move"?  What % would say "wrong move"?



There's a discussion on a Colts board right now.
It's about 75/25 right/wrong.
The 25 can't seem to grasp the concept that while Luck isn't as good as Manning just yet, Luck plus $18,000,000 in cap space is much better than Manning.
Much, MUCH better
Shitloads better.
They just can't get that.
Stupid 25%.
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Post by guppy on Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:05 am

George1963 wrote:
Year one was when they deviously got the number 1 pick by deliberately tanking the 2011 season. Remember?

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Post by George1963 on Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:38 am

guppy wrote:
George1963 wrote:
Year one was when they deviously got the number 1 pick by deliberately tanking the 2011 season. Remember?

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Right.

On to Cincinnati.
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Post by guppy on Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:24 pm

George1963 wrote:
On to Cincinnati.



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Post by George1963 on Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:36 am

guppy wrote:
George1963 wrote:
On to Cincinnati.



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Imitation,  derision, who can tell the difference?
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Post by guppy on Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:36 am

George1963 wrote:

Imitation,  derision, who can tell the difference?


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Post by guppy on Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:03 am

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Post by Stampede on Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:38 am

George1963 wrote:
guppy wrote:
Rick wrote:I thought you said the Colts were on a four year plan. It looks like they're pretty close in year three.


Andrew Luck is special, no question. 

If you polled Indy fans right now, today, would they say not re-signing Peyton was the right move or the wrong move?  What % would say "right move"?  What % would say "wrong move"?



There's a discussion on a Colts board right now.
It's about 75/25 right/wrong.
The 25 can't seem to grasp the concept that while Luck isn't as good as Manning just yet, Luck plus $18,000,000 in cap space is much better than Manning.
Much, MUCH better
Shitloads better.
They just can't get that.
Stupid 25%.

Besides the reasons you already mentioned,   it came down to Manning for another 3 or 4 years or Luck for a possible 15 more years......I didn`t like it at the time but I also understood it was the right thing to do......No player is greater than the team.....It was the right move due to the salary considerations and for the long term stability of the franchise.....It`s worked out for everyone involved......Still root for Peyton except for when he faces the Colts.........Hello everyone,  it`s been awhile.

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Post by George1963 on Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:25 am

Stampede wrote:
George1963 wrote:
guppy wrote:
Rick wrote:I thought you said the Colts were on a four year plan. It looks like they're pretty close in year three.


Andrew Luck is special, no question. 

If you polled Indy fans right now, today, would they say not re-signing Peyton was the right move or the wrong move?  What % would say "right move"?  What % would say "wrong move"?



There's a discussion on a Colts board right now.
It's about 75/25 right/wrong.
The 25 can't seem to grasp the concept that while Luck isn't as good as Manning just yet, Luck plus $18,000,000 in cap space is much better than Manning.
Much, MUCH better
Shitloads better.
They just can't get that.
Stupid 25%.

Besides the reasons you already mentioned,   it came down to Manning for another 3 or 4 years or Luck for a possible 15 more years......I didn`t like it at the time but I also understood it was the right thing to do......No player is greater than the team.....It was the right move due to the salary considerations and for the long term stability of the franchise.....It`s worked out for everyone involved......Still root for Peyton except for when he faces the Colts.........Hello everyone,  it`s been awhile.

I should have worked another 2% in there. Those who wanted to keep them both. According to a recent article Polian was in that group and I have to admit, so was I.
Looking back though that made no sense. Luck didn't need to sit and having PM, even as strong as he came back, wouldn't have changed the final outcomes of '12-'13 much IMO.  It was not just the right move it was the only move.
Anyone who still thinks they should have kept him is just being nostalgic. I actually got an e-mail this morning saying PM should have broken the TD record as a Colt.
I wrote back "Wait a while. A Colt will eventually break it."
Good to see you again Stamp.
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Post by guppy on Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:29 pm

Stampede wrote:
......No player is greater than the team.


Hmmm.  Interesting concept.  I think I remember hearing something like during past discussions of "The Patriot Way".  

It seems the Colts have learned well from NE's example.  LOL.

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Post by guppy on Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:31 pm

George1963 wrote:
I wrote back "Wait a while. A Colt will eventually break it."



Someone once said, "Records can be broken, but championships are forever." 

Don't know who that was though.

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Post by George1963 on Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:12 pm

guppy wrote:
Stampede wrote:
......No player is greater than the team.


Hmmm.  Interesting concept.  I think I remember hearing something like during past discussions of "The Patriot Way".  



In terms of the Patriot way, I think the concept is "No player is greater than me. Even if getting rid of him is bad for the team"
Something like that.
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Post by guppy on Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:41 am

George1963 wrote:
In terms of the Patriot way, I think the concept is "No player is greater than me. Even if getting rid of him is bad for the team"
Something like that.


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Post by guppy on Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:23 pm



Stampede wrote:
......No player is greater than the team.


That's right.  That's why Bill Belichick sent Darrelle Revis home on Tuesday and he was not allowed to practice or attend team meetings because he was late. 

Revis reportedly accepted responsibility

The Patriots did not make a big deal out of it, but...

"The message was definitely sent. The rules apply to everybody."
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Post by George1963 on Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:24 am

guppy wrote:


Stampede wrote:
......No player is greater than the team.


That's right.  That's why Bill Belichick sent Darrelle Revis home on Tuesday and he was not allowed to practice or attend team meetings because he was late. 

Revis reportedly accepted responsibility

The Patriots did not make a big deal out of it, but...

"The message was definitely sent. The rules apply to everybody."
So if Brady gets a flat tire this morning they'll send him home? Right.
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Post by Stampede on Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:39 am

George1963 wrote:
Stampede wrote:
George1963 wrote:
guppy wrote:
Rick wrote:I thought you said the Colts were on a four year plan. It looks like they're pretty close in year three.


Andrew Luck is special, no question. 

If you polled Indy fans right now, today, would they say not re-signing Peyton was the right move or the wrong move?  What % would say "right move"?  What % would say "wrong move"?



There's a discussion on a Colts board right now.
It's about 75/25 right/wrong.
The 25 can't seem to grasp the concept that while Luck isn't as good as Manning just yet, Luck plus $18,000,000 in cap space is much better than Manning.
Much, MUCH better
Shitloads better.
They just can't get that.
Stupid 25%.

Besides the reasons you already mentioned,   it came down to Manning for another 3 or 4 years or Luck for a possible 15 more years......I didn`t like it at the time but I also understood it was the right thing to do......No player is greater than the team.....It was the right move due to the salary considerations and for the long term stability of the franchise.....It`s worked out for everyone involved......Still root for Peyton except for when he faces the Colts.........Hello everyone,  it`s been awhile.

I should have worked another 2% in there. Those who wanted to keep them both. According to a recent article Polian was in that group and I have to admit, so was I.
Looking back though that made no sense. Luck didn't need to sit and having PM, even as strong as he came back, wouldn't have changed the final outcomes of '12-'13 much IMO.  It was not just the right move it was the only move.
Anyone who still thinks they should have kept him is just being nostalgic. I actually got an e-mail this morning saying PM should have broken the TD record as a Colt.
I wrote back "Wait a while. A Colt will eventually break it."
Good to see you again Stamp.


I`m happy for Peyton and I wish him the best but Luck has made the transition flawless.........The kid just keeps getting better and he brings things to the table that Peyton couldn`t,  or wouldn`t do......Whereas Peyton would take a dive to avoid the hit,   Luck will escape and make something of it or knock a linebacker out (see Burfict).......He`s been exciting to watch and its been a pleasure after all these years to be able to afford a real defense because of the difference in salaries..........Good to see you too........Don`t think I`m welcome on the Steelers board anymore lol.

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